Julloef
2024-02-02 09:46:23
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Hello everyone,
we have the opportunity to get a plot in a new development area in southern Germany and are considering how best to approach the matter and what costs to expect.
One knows the usual 3000€/m² plus incidental construction costs plus other incidental costs plus land.
We already own a semi-detached house that we bought several years ago and would sell after the completion of the new house.
Our current semi-detached house has 200m² of land, built in 2007, photovoltaic system, Jeisha heat pump with heating circuit (self-installed and operated with Heishamon), 125m² living space plus 55m² basement partially converted into living space.
The dream of a detached single-family house has never left us, but we had actually come to terms with it.
We were all the more surprised when we now received the approval for a plot.
An exact building plot will still be assigned to us, we have only prioritized so far.
But in a time of such high construction costs, although I am not exactly unskilled in manual work, I still have great respect for a new building project.
The development area is supposed to be this one: "Engwiesen II - 1st construction phase"
Previous activities with a general contractor:
We have spoken with a general contractor so far, which I liked less. He is well known in the region and has very positive online reviews, which does not necessarily mean much.
Things I did not like about him:
About our house:
Budget:
Now to our plan:
My questions:
Best regards
we have the opportunity to get a plot in a new development area in southern Germany and are considering how best to approach the matter and what costs to expect.
One knows the usual 3000€/m² plus incidental construction costs plus other incidental costs plus land.
We already own a semi-detached house that we bought several years ago and would sell after the completion of the new house.
Our current semi-detached house has 200m² of land, built in 2007, photovoltaic system, Jeisha heat pump with heating circuit (self-installed and operated with Heishamon), 125m² living space plus 55m² basement partially converted into living space.
The dream of a detached single-family house has never left us, but we had actually come to terms with it.
We were all the more surprised when we now received the approval for a plot.
An exact building plot will still be assigned to us, we have only prioritized so far.
But in a time of such high construction costs, although I am not exactly unskilled in manual work, I still have great respect for a new building project.
The development area is supposed to be this one: "Engwiesen II - 1st construction phase"
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- Special features:
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[*]Partially 1-2m height difference across the entire plot area
[*]With shed or flat roof, extensive greening is mandatory, which I find somewhat counterproductive with mandatory photovoltaics in BW (or double costs)
[*]Mandatory connection to cold local heating (mandatory purchase of Waterkotte brine-water heat pump with maintenance contract and electricity contract for the heat pump)
[*]Topsoil must be redistributed on the plot
Previous activities with a general contractor:
We have spoken with a general contractor so far, which I liked less. He is well known in the region and has very positive online reviews, which does not necessarily mean much.
Things I did not like about him:
[*]He only builds with YTONG (I know you should always let the masons do the masonry best)
[*]only installs plastic windows
[*]wanted to pressure me into a lift-and-slide door (which I explicitly did not want)
[*]With a gable roof, he does not want to build with an open ridge (too high costs for him)
[*]Bay windows and projections make no cost difference for him (I was somewhat baffled because this contradicts everything I know, simple cubature etc.)
[*]only installs plastic windows
[*]I wanted a wall heating behind the shower in the bathroom --> he cannot implement this
[*]He advises against a solid staircase (okay, it is a matter of taste and design/cost)
[*]He estimates earthworks at 30-35k€ for slab foundation, 40-45k€ for basement (okay could fit)
About our house:
[*]Slab foundation or basement/partial basement according to the basement rule from
[*]180m² living space, 1 study on the ground floor, 2 children's rooms, bedroom with dressing room and separate bathroom, children's bathroom upstairs, storage room upstairs
[*]Solid staircase, straight or U-shape as a landing staircase
[*]Simple cubature
[*]Gable roof with open ridge up to 25 degrees or shed roof 8 degrees (unfortunately green roof)
[*]Plan fixed glazing to save money
Budget:
[*]I try to save with simple cubature
[*]450k€ for the house without incidental construction costs (will be very difficult) without garage, 2500€/m²
Now to our plan:
[*]Commission plot survey ourselves before talking to general contractors
[*]Commission architectural service phases 1+2
[*]Wait
[*]Request general contractors or possibly continue with architect up to phase 5
My questions:
[*]Where can I still save?
[*]Are 2000-2500€ per m² still possible nowadays if you want to?
[*]How would you proceed?
[*]Single contract awarding, yes or no?
[*]Where are the pitfalls?
Best regards