supernana
2016-12-05 11:12:07
- #1
Hello everyone,
we are currently planning our new semi-detached house and especially in the sanitary area there are two major construction sites causing problems. Forgive me the hand-drawn floor plan, but unfortunately I have not been able to graphically implement the trapezoidal bathtub on the PC so far.
1st construction site: Main bathroom on the 1st floor
The bathroom should be approximately 3.30m x 2.89m. Door and window are more or less still flexibly movable on the opposite longer walls. Since we redesigned the bathroom (from a corner of the house to the middle of the house), it lies exactly above the living/dining room so that suspending the ceiling is actually not an option. I really wanted to make good use of the room and currently have a T-solution in mind. The requirement was a shower as close to floor-level as possible (preferably not tiled) and actually to avoid glass as much as possible. Also desirable would be a washbasin with two countertop basins (possibly also simply an extra-wide basin with two taps) and preferably a trapezoidal bathtub (e.g. Duravit Paoiva). The window will be about 1m wide and the partition wall should not be designed to ceiling height so that some daylight still reaches the rear area of the bathroom. Otherwise, I don’t find it dramatic if you have to turn on the light for showering. On the floor above there will also be a shower, so that the ceiling might have to be suspended anyway and built-in spotlights would be suitable there.
The following problems actually mainly arise around the shower:
- floor-level shower: I basically think the developer would like to suspend the ceiling below, which we absolutely do not want. As an alternative, I have meanwhile informed myself about this Geberit wall drain. Since we probably want/have to work with pre-wall installations anyway, wouldn’t that be a suitable alternative? The wall drain could then be hidden behind this pre-wall. It can be seen from the floor plan that the shower would be very close to the supply shaft so that we could work with a very slight slope??? I think everything would be shifted a few cm again by the pre-walls, the floor plan is only supposed to specify the approximate dimensions. If it doesn’t fit otherwise, for example, I would also reduce the washbasin width and depth to keep the passages at the appropriate size.
- Since we would prefer to work completely without doors at the shower, I wanted to keep the passage rather narrow. Does anyone have experience with a shower entrance in this form and a width of approx. 70cm? It probably couldn’t be much wider either, otherwise the wall for the washbasin would be too short!
- a small further problem probably known to many who work with developers: the surcharges for desired washbasins and fittings are really outrageous! Has anyone had experience buying the fittings and washbasins themselves? For surface-mounted fittings that should be no problem (I simply agree on the status “including angle valves”) but how does it look with built-in fittings which I would currently also like to have on the washbasin?
- I would also be happy about further ideas or experiences regarding the floor plan. An L-solution would also be fine, it’s just a question whether you get that much use out of it; that would just shift the partition wall between shower and WC….
2nd construction site: Shower bathroom in the attic
The roof conversion is included with the developer. That means insulation and cladding, as well as underfloor heating etc. are already planned. We are currently only two people and don’t really need the space in the attic. However, in the future it should be divided into two rooms plus a small shower bathroom instead of one large studio. Initially, the idea was only to pre-install water and drain pipes so that retrofitting is greatly simplified. Since money is usually tight when building, we would actually like to postpone as much as possible to later, as we probably won’t need the rooms until at least 6-7 years from now. However, I’m slowly doubting whether later renovation is really that easy! Therefore I’m looking for experienced home builders here. I would basically think it would be most sensible to already have the room partitions built or set up with drywall and to install the underfloor heating accordingly (otherwise you would have the problem that the underfloor heating would be both under the partition walls as well as under the shower and so on, wouldn’t it??) and possibly to have pre-wall elements like for a WC or shower already put in the screed? The pipe installation running in the pre-walls, ceramics and floor coverings etc. should then no longer be a problem at a later date, right?
Many thanks in advance
we are currently planning our new semi-detached house and especially in the sanitary area there are two major construction sites causing problems. Forgive me the hand-drawn floor plan, but unfortunately I have not been able to graphically implement the trapezoidal bathtub on the PC so far.
1st construction site: Main bathroom on the 1st floor
The bathroom should be approximately 3.30m x 2.89m. Door and window are more or less still flexibly movable on the opposite longer walls. Since we redesigned the bathroom (from a corner of the house to the middle of the house), it lies exactly above the living/dining room so that suspending the ceiling is actually not an option. I really wanted to make good use of the room and currently have a T-solution in mind. The requirement was a shower as close to floor-level as possible (preferably not tiled) and actually to avoid glass as much as possible. Also desirable would be a washbasin with two countertop basins (possibly also simply an extra-wide basin with two taps) and preferably a trapezoidal bathtub (e.g. Duravit Paoiva). The window will be about 1m wide and the partition wall should not be designed to ceiling height so that some daylight still reaches the rear area of the bathroom. Otherwise, I don’t find it dramatic if you have to turn on the light for showering. On the floor above there will also be a shower, so that the ceiling might have to be suspended anyway and built-in spotlights would be suitable there.
The following problems actually mainly arise around the shower:
- floor-level shower: I basically think the developer would like to suspend the ceiling below, which we absolutely do not want. As an alternative, I have meanwhile informed myself about this Geberit wall drain. Since we probably want/have to work with pre-wall installations anyway, wouldn’t that be a suitable alternative? The wall drain could then be hidden behind this pre-wall. It can be seen from the floor plan that the shower would be very close to the supply shaft so that we could work with a very slight slope??? I think everything would be shifted a few cm again by the pre-walls, the floor plan is only supposed to specify the approximate dimensions. If it doesn’t fit otherwise, for example, I would also reduce the washbasin width and depth to keep the passages at the appropriate size.
- Since we would prefer to work completely without doors at the shower, I wanted to keep the passage rather narrow. Does anyone have experience with a shower entrance in this form and a width of approx. 70cm? It probably couldn’t be much wider either, otherwise the wall for the washbasin would be too short!
- a small further problem probably known to many who work with developers: the surcharges for desired washbasins and fittings are really outrageous! Has anyone had experience buying the fittings and washbasins themselves? For surface-mounted fittings that should be no problem (I simply agree on the status “including angle valves”) but how does it look with built-in fittings which I would currently also like to have on the washbasin?
- I would also be happy about further ideas or experiences regarding the floor plan. An L-solution would also be fine, it’s just a question whether you get that much use out of it; that would just shift the partition wall between shower and WC….
2nd construction site: Shower bathroom in the attic
The roof conversion is included with the developer. That means insulation and cladding, as well as underfloor heating etc. are already planned. We are currently only two people and don’t really need the space in the attic. However, in the future it should be divided into two rooms plus a small shower bathroom instead of one large studio. Initially, the idea was only to pre-install water and drain pipes so that retrofitting is greatly simplified. Since money is usually tight when building, we would actually like to postpone as much as possible to later, as we probably won’t need the rooms until at least 6-7 years from now. However, I’m slowly doubting whether later renovation is really that easy! Therefore I’m looking for experienced home builders here. I would basically think it would be most sensible to already have the room partitions built or set up with drywall and to install the underfloor heating accordingly (otherwise you would have the problem that the underfloor heating would be both under the partition walls as well as under the shower and so on, wouldn’t it??) and possibly to have pre-wall elements like for a WC or shower already put in the screed? The pipe installation running in the pre-walls, ceramics and floor coverings etc. should then no longer be a problem at a later date, right?
Many thanks in advance