sonic78
2019-05-19 19:36:59
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Dear forum,
my wife and I are planning our first house in Schleswig Holstein, about 25 km east of Hamburg. The plot is almost secured and will only be finally notarized. At the moment, we are dealing with the next step, the house planning, which has to fit us, our wishes, and of course our budget.
Whether it will be a prefabricated house or a solid house is still open, as is a KfW standard. We still need to do some research and visit a few show homes. The tendency leans slightly towards a solid house.
We plan:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1342 sqm, of which 170 sqm access path (flagpole plot)
Slope: no slope, all flat
Floor area ratio: 0.15
Floor space index: 0.20
Building window, building line and boundary: 23m x 26m
Edge development: main building 5m
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 1 storey according to development plan
Roof type: gable roof, ~50 degree pitch
Style: modern, little or no roof overhang
Orientation: according to plan
Maximum heights/limitations: max. height according to development plan 10m
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof type, building type
Basement: utility basement with increased raw construction height for possible later expansion
Number of persons, age: 2 adults (39+32), 2 children (4+5; family planning not yet finished)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
GF – hallway, shower/WC, 2 study rooms, kitchen, pantry, living/dining room
UF – main bathroom, master bedroom, three children's rooms
Office: 2 small work rooms on the ground floor
Guest sleepers, nights per year: 30 nights
closed architecture
modern construction
kitchen without cooking island, separated from dining room by sliding door
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: preferably yes
Balcony: no
Garage: double garage
Further wishes:
– would like a deep window seat in the living/dining area
– would like to realize the house completely with wooden windows
– would like a closed staircase, i.e. no wooden staircase, but possibly concrete with real wood on the treads
House design
Own design of the floor plan, currently still without windows
What do you especially like? Why?
– Study rooms have good space on the ground floor
– Room sizes in the upper floor are sufficiently large
– Entrance with some angles – would like to install a small bench there and further along build the wardrobe
What do you not like? Why?
– Kitchen/pantry possibly too small? (freezer could go to the basement)
– Is the passage width from entrance to hallway large enough?
– WC on the ground floor not central enough?
– Living/dining area too small?
– Master bedroom possibly too small?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
We have not consulted an architect yet. A first appointment for an initial consultation is scheduled. We are still torn whether the architect might exceed our budget.
We have also made initial appointments with various general contractors.
Personal price limit for the house, excluding equipment:
420k€ for basement and house, ready to move in (+20k€ buffer extra)
20k€ for double garage with door and drive
Plot, incidental costs, development and additional building costs are extra.
Preferred heating technology:
I have not informed myself enough about this yet.
We would like underfloor heating everywhere, also in the basement.
KfW55 should definitely be achieved, possibly better if the budget allows
If you have to do without, on which details/extensions
can you do without:
– one less study room on the ground floor (would have to move to the basement)
can you not do without:
– basement (due to work we simply need more storage space)
Why is the design as it is now? e.g.
The floor plan is a mixture of many examples we have seen.
What makes it especially good or bad in your eyes?
It includes everything we spatially need.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Houses with 7 rooms are not so common here. Does the floor plan and our idea with the utility basement roughly fit our budget for a turnkey finish? Where could savings be made?
Unfortunately, I am a layman and have drawn the plan as best as I could.
House footprint is: 9.5m x 12.5m
Walls are consistently planned with 42cm and 24cm
For orientation: one grid square corresponds to 1 sqm
There is always potential for improvement, so we look forward to feedback.

my wife and I are planning our first house in Schleswig Holstein, about 25 km east of Hamburg. The plot is almost secured and will only be finally notarized. At the moment, we are dealing with the next step, the house planning, which has to fit us, our wishes, and of course our budget.
Whether it will be a prefabricated house or a solid house is still open, as is a KfW standard. We still need to do some research and visit a few show homes. The tendency leans slightly towards a solid house.
We plan:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1342 sqm, of which 170 sqm access path (flagpole plot)
Slope: no slope, all flat
Floor area ratio: 0.15
Floor space index: 0.20
Building window, building line and boundary: 23m x 26m
Edge development: main building 5m
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 1 storey according to development plan
Roof type: gable roof, ~50 degree pitch
Style: modern, little or no roof overhang
Orientation: according to plan
Maximum heights/limitations: max. height according to development plan 10m
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof type, building type
Basement: utility basement with increased raw construction height for possible later expansion
Number of persons, age: 2 adults (39+32), 2 children (4+5; family planning not yet finished)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
GF – hallway, shower/WC, 2 study rooms, kitchen, pantry, living/dining room
UF – main bathroom, master bedroom, three children's rooms
Office: 2 small work rooms on the ground floor
Guest sleepers, nights per year: 30 nights
closed architecture
modern construction
kitchen without cooking island, separated from dining room by sliding door
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: preferably yes
Balcony: no
Garage: double garage
Further wishes:
– would like a deep window seat in the living/dining area
– would like to realize the house completely with wooden windows
– would like a closed staircase, i.e. no wooden staircase, but possibly concrete with real wood on the treads
House design
Own design of the floor plan, currently still without windows
What do you especially like? Why?
– Study rooms have good space on the ground floor
– Room sizes in the upper floor are sufficiently large
– Entrance with some angles – would like to install a small bench there and further along build the wardrobe
What do you not like? Why?
– Kitchen/pantry possibly too small? (freezer could go to the basement)
– Is the passage width from entrance to hallway large enough?
– WC on the ground floor not central enough?
– Living/dining area too small?
– Master bedroom possibly too small?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
We have not consulted an architect yet. A first appointment for an initial consultation is scheduled. We are still torn whether the architect might exceed our budget.
We have also made initial appointments with various general contractors.
Personal price limit for the house, excluding equipment:
420k€ for basement and house, ready to move in (+20k€ buffer extra)
20k€ for double garage with door and drive
Plot, incidental costs, development and additional building costs are extra.
Preferred heating technology:
I have not informed myself enough about this yet.
We would like underfloor heating everywhere, also in the basement.
KfW55 should definitely be achieved, possibly better if the budget allows
If you have to do without, on which details/extensions
can you do without:
– one less study room on the ground floor (would have to move to the basement)
can you not do without:
– basement (due to work we simply need more storage space)
Why is the design as it is now? e.g.
The floor plan is a mixture of many examples we have seen.
What makes it especially good or bad in your eyes?
It includes everything we spatially need.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Houses with 7 rooms are not so common here. Does the floor plan and our idea with the utility basement roughly fit our budget for a turnkey finish? Where could savings be made?
Unfortunately, I am a layman and have drawn the plan as best as I could.
House footprint is: 9.5m x 12.5m
Walls are consistently planned with 42cm and 24cm
For orientation: one grid square corresponds to 1 sqm
There is always potential for improvement, so we look forward to feedback.