B351721
2023-03-04 16:11:30
- #1
Hello everyone,
a bit of context for my question below
- we are planning a single-family house, approx. 150m2 floor area
- equipment not the cheapest, but reduced to the essentials for cost reasons
- price estimates below only house construction including base slab, move-in ready after painting and flooring, including sanitary
- excluding ancillary construction costs, outdoor facilities, kitchen, furnishings
- construction area Baden-Württemberg, Stuttgart metropolitan area
After receiving price estimates from a handful of providers upon request for the planned construction of our single-family house, I see the current construction costs at
- solid house providers KfW40+ QNC 3000-3200EUR per sqm
- prefabricated house providers KfW40+ QNC 3000-3300EUR per sqm
- prefabricated house providers KfW55 3000-3100EUR per sqm
for mid-range providers who build turnkey or move-in ready.
In addition, there are providers where more own work is required, e.g. shell houses. Here the builder has to commission and coordinate the trades more on their own (electric, base slab, drywall) and/or perform more own work (painting, flooring, drywall), then I come to
- solid house providers KfW40+ 2800EUR per sqm
- solid house providers KfW55 2600EUR per sqm
- prefabricated house providers KfW55 2600-2700EUR per sqm
QNC probably does not apply here due to own work, therefore maximum 100,000EUR KfW loan or financing without KfW at all.
I still come to total costs for our construction project that exceed our currently planned financial framework.
At the same time, I think it makes little sense to inquire with more companies – for comparable construction services and quality, construction prices will not differ significantly. Perhaps a 2% difference between providers is expected, that is around 15,000EUR – great, but not a sufficient leverage.
What I am looking for
- do you consider the above prices realistic or have I gone wrong somewhere (equipment, communication, ...) and have been offered rather high prices?
- are there realistic options I have not considered and with which I can reach 2700-2800EUR (KfW40) or 2600EUR (KfW55)?
-- other ways of building, providers who are inherently cheaper, e.g. through standardization, concrete instead of stone/wood frame, ...?
-- more self-commissioning – is it worth it to commission the solar system from another provider than the general contractor or do I end up saving only insignificantly with much effort?
-- doing more yourself...? Is limited possible, I am not a professional – painting yes, flooring yes, drywall hmm maybe if it works, ...
- cheaper providers that I may not have found yet...?
- promotions such as interest subsidies / grants etc. by individual providers as part of current campaigns?
- ...?
I would gladly build energy-efficient, but the offered construction costs are simply no longer affordable with the increased interest rates and after the loss of subsidies. QNC – nice idea, but the costs associated with it are also priced in and contribute to the fact that I, as a well-earning father, currently CANNOT build a house.
Maybe you have some creative ideas on how I can still look for solutions.
a bit of context for my question below
- we are planning a single-family house, approx. 150m2 floor area
- equipment not the cheapest, but reduced to the essentials for cost reasons
- price estimates below only house construction including base slab, move-in ready after painting and flooring, including sanitary
- excluding ancillary construction costs, outdoor facilities, kitchen, furnishings
- construction area Baden-Württemberg, Stuttgart metropolitan area
After receiving price estimates from a handful of providers upon request for the planned construction of our single-family house, I see the current construction costs at
- solid house providers KfW40+ QNC 3000-3200EUR per sqm
- prefabricated house providers KfW40+ QNC 3000-3300EUR per sqm
- prefabricated house providers KfW55 3000-3100EUR per sqm
for mid-range providers who build turnkey or move-in ready.
In addition, there are providers where more own work is required, e.g. shell houses. Here the builder has to commission and coordinate the trades more on their own (electric, base slab, drywall) and/or perform more own work (painting, flooring, drywall), then I come to
- solid house providers KfW40+ 2800EUR per sqm
- solid house providers KfW55 2600EUR per sqm
- prefabricated house providers KfW55 2600-2700EUR per sqm
QNC probably does not apply here due to own work, therefore maximum 100,000EUR KfW loan or financing without KfW at all.
I still come to total costs for our construction project that exceed our currently planned financial framework.
At the same time, I think it makes little sense to inquire with more companies – for comparable construction services and quality, construction prices will not differ significantly. Perhaps a 2% difference between providers is expected, that is around 15,000EUR – great, but not a sufficient leverage.
What I am looking for
- do you consider the above prices realistic or have I gone wrong somewhere (equipment, communication, ...) and have been offered rather high prices?
- are there realistic options I have not considered and with which I can reach 2700-2800EUR (KfW40) or 2600EUR (KfW55)?
-- other ways of building, providers who are inherently cheaper, e.g. through standardization, concrete instead of stone/wood frame, ...?
-- more self-commissioning – is it worth it to commission the solar system from another provider than the general contractor or do I end up saving only insignificantly with much effort?
-- doing more yourself...? Is limited possible, I am not a professional – painting yes, flooring yes, drywall hmm maybe if it works, ...
- cheaper providers that I may not have found yet...?
- promotions such as interest subsidies / grants etc. by individual providers as part of current campaigns?
- ...?
I would gladly build energy-efficient, but the offered construction costs are simply no longer affordable with the increased interest rates and after the loss of subsidies. QNC – nice idea, but the costs associated with it are also priced in and contribute to the fact that I, as a well-earning father, currently CANNOT build a house.
Maybe you have some creative ideas on how I can still look for solutions.