alive&kicking
2025-06-05 15:16:25
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So ... and now to the big "construction sites" (I already feel sick)
They concern the shell construction, execution of the white bathtub, concrete cover and perimeter insulation, Isokörbe. Since all the following topics belong to the shell construction area, I hope it is okay to put everything into one thread.
Our house is completely reinforced concrete (I wouldn’t do it that way anymore), ready-mixed concrete, no precast walls, executed with a white bathtub. Before I gather all the data, if necessary, first rough questions, the answers to which I probably already know.
1. White bathtub:
A joint sheet metal has been inserted at the transition from the basement floor slab to the basement walls, in my opinion also technically correct.
At the transition from basement walls to basement ceiling this was (probably) not done. This is probably not mandatory either, but a horizontal sealing of the construction joints should be present, if I have understood the numerous threads on this topic correctly. This is missing. Already backfilled, garden/terraces all finished.
Anchor holes have been closed with ??? an expanding agent … I cannot remember the name of the material used.
Deficiency?
2. Perimeter insulation:
The perimeter insulation boards partially have a gap of about 1 cm from the wall, which allows water to run behind.
The basement was built at very low temperatures (November), the 2-component adhesive from Ma*** used was very viscous and difficult to work with, partly the glue points and thus the boards have later loosened. The glue points themselves sometimes had a thickness of 1 cm.
Statement from the site manager (our) from memory, "if water should ever accumulate, how much water can get in, besides we are in the frost-free area."
Partly corrected.
Deficiency?
3. Concrete walls:
Our shell construction was halted for a winter during the Corona period. Afterwards, rust marks appeared on exposed exterior and interior walls. (unnoticed by the construction management)
Causes, in my opinion, on the one hand gravel nests and on the other hand insufficient cover (no spacers, or detached).
After much back and forth, a concrete restorer was commissioned by the construction company, who exposed the affected areas, derusted with a brush (no sandblasting), and applied corrosion protection and repair mortar (manufacturer from Augsburg).
My questions,
- should the cover of the reinforcement adjacent to the affected areas (which have not yet reacted) have been measured?
- what exposure class applies under ETICS and is a smaller cover tolerated here?
- what if rust under ETICS causes everything to burst?
Statement of the site manager, "what could possibly happen here, no structural function of the walls, also covered by ETICS."
(see sample photos)
Deficiency?
4. Upstand of projecting balcony:
The balcony running around a corner (approx. 14 m) was cast on site, on Isokörbe, monolithic. It has an approx. 10 cm wide upstand, approx. 20 cm high. Small gravel nests were visible on this upstand from the beginning. Originally we wanted to just paint, but after rust stains appeared in numerous places, we had to plaster.
I never saw the planning for the concreting work, but I remember that there was a discussion during the formwork about the dimensioning of the Isokörbe. The construction company said Isokörbe were too weak, planner/site manager/structural engineer said they fit. Perhaps it was agreed in the discussion to make the upstand narrower for weight reasons, but that is speculation.
Question:
- is it even possible to insert bent reinforcement into a 10 cm wide upstand without maintaining the minimum cover?
(Photo)
Deficiency?
5. Isokörbe, sealing and dimensioning:
The balcony slab has been provided with a slope and sealed on the tinsmith’s side. The sealing consists of 2 layers of bitumen membrane, with slope panels underneath.
So, no sealing directly on the concrete surface of the balcony and no sealing on the Isokörbe.
The site manager said, overall this is not a sealing like on a roof terrace, it can happily fill up with water.
Correctly executed??
I would like to have the load-bearing capacity of the Isokörbe checked. Would anyone like to undertake this contract? If so, please get in touch.
Many thanks for the support, also in the other threads.
They concern the shell construction, execution of the white bathtub, concrete cover and perimeter insulation, Isokörbe. Since all the following topics belong to the shell construction area, I hope it is okay to put everything into one thread.
Our house is completely reinforced concrete (I wouldn’t do it that way anymore), ready-mixed concrete, no precast walls, executed with a white bathtub. Before I gather all the data, if necessary, first rough questions, the answers to which I probably already know.
1. White bathtub:
A joint sheet metal has been inserted at the transition from the basement floor slab to the basement walls, in my opinion also technically correct.
At the transition from basement walls to basement ceiling this was (probably) not done. This is probably not mandatory either, but a horizontal sealing of the construction joints should be present, if I have understood the numerous threads on this topic correctly. This is missing. Already backfilled, garden/terraces all finished.
Anchor holes have been closed with ??? an expanding agent … I cannot remember the name of the material used.
Deficiency?
2. Perimeter insulation:
The perimeter insulation boards partially have a gap of about 1 cm from the wall, which allows water to run behind.
The basement was built at very low temperatures (November), the 2-component adhesive from Ma*** used was very viscous and difficult to work with, partly the glue points and thus the boards have later loosened. The glue points themselves sometimes had a thickness of 1 cm.
Statement from the site manager (our) from memory, "if water should ever accumulate, how much water can get in, besides we are in the frost-free area."
Partly corrected.
Deficiency?
3. Concrete walls:
Our shell construction was halted for a winter during the Corona period. Afterwards, rust marks appeared on exposed exterior and interior walls. (unnoticed by the construction management)
Causes, in my opinion, on the one hand gravel nests and on the other hand insufficient cover (no spacers, or detached).
After much back and forth, a concrete restorer was commissioned by the construction company, who exposed the affected areas, derusted with a brush (no sandblasting), and applied corrosion protection and repair mortar (manufacturer from Augsburg).
My questions,
- should the cover of the reinforcement adjacent to the affected areas (which have not yet reacted) have been measured?
- what exposure class applies under ETICS and is a smaller cover tolerated here?
- what if rust under ETICS causes everything to burst?
Statement of the site manager, "what could possibly happen here, no structural function of the walls, also covered by ETICS."
(see sample photos)
Deficiency?
4. Upstand of projecting balcony:
The balcony running around a corner (approx. 14 m) was cast on site, on Isokörbe, monolithic. It has an approx. 10 cm wide upstand, approx. 20 cm high. Small gravel nests were visible on this upstand from the beginning. Originally we wanted to just paint, but after rust stains appeared in numerous places, we had to plaster.
I never saw the planning for the concreting work, but I remember that there was a discussion during the formwork about the dimensioning of the Isokörbe. The construction company said Isokörbe were too weak, planner/site manager/structural engineer said they fit. Perhaps it was agreed in the discussion to make the upstand narrower for weight reasons, but that is speculation.
Question:
- is it even possible to insert bent reinforcement into a 10 cm wide upstand without maintaining the minimum cover?
(Photo)
Deficiency?
5. Isokörbe, sealing and dimensioning:
The balcony slab has been provided with a slope and sealed on the tinsmith’s side. The sealing consists of 2 layers of bitumen membrane, with slope panels underneath.
So, no sealing directly on the concrete surface of the balcony and no sealing on the Isokörbe.
The site manager said, overall this is not a sealing like on a roof terrace, it can happily fill up with water.
Correctly executed??
I would like to have the load-bearing capacity of the Isokörbe checked. Would anyone like to undertake this contract? If so, please get in touch.
Many thanks for the support, also in the other threads.