Can we really afford this, and will the bank support it?

  • Erstellt am 2025-04-20 22:51:11

Allthewayup

2025-04-20 22:51:11
  • #1
We are actually considering looking for something bigger after not even a year in the new house. And as fate would have it, a listing for a new build in our city has just appeared that has caught our eye. I don’t want to go into the background and details now – neither about our desire nor about the property.

This topic is about the sober questions: “Could we afford it and will the bank go along with it?”

Numbers, data, facts:
- Price of the desired property in Bavaria: €1.6 million (no real estate agent involved)
- Equity in the daily allowance account: €250K
- Realistic selling price current house: €1.1 million (of which €450K financed and €440K still outstanding)
- Loan 1 = plot: €600 rate (1.67% interest, 3,x% repayment, €70K outstanding of originally €140K)
- Loan 2 = house: €1,240 rate (1.3% interest, 2% repayment, €440K outstanding of originally €450K)
- De facto we would have to take out another €350K loan. About €100K of this is incidental purchase costs.
- Income: €7,600 net (2x permanent contracts, 2x child benefits) – bonuses, Christmas bonus, holiday pay, collective agreement special payments are another approx. €800-1,000 net per month.

For a year now, we have managed to save about €3,500 to 4,000 per month without even trying (often eat out, 3 cars, many trips, etc.).

We are interested in how the financial experts in this forum see the chances that the bank will take over the two existing loans with top interest rates and whether over 40% of household income just for the loans is above the reasonable level for the bank?

Assuming for the €350K we get an interest rate of 3.5% and 2% repayment, that makes €1,604 per month.

That would be €3,444 per month just for loans. Then €500 incidental costs for the house, let's round up to €4K per month. That means we would have €3,600 left to live on plus the partly contractually and/or collectively agreed special payments of €600/month (excluding bonuses). That’s €4,200/month to live on. We have always managed with less and hardly made any sacrifices, so I think theoretically that would be doable. Whether it is smart is another matter.
 

wiltshire

2025-04-21 00:23:48
  • #2
Wisdom is overrated. Your numbers certainly make such a project possible.
 

nordanney

2025-04-21 00:44:31
  • #3
As a bank, we calculate income – guaranteed bonuses etc. are counted as regular salary – with a flat rate of 50% for living expenses. So you can calculate for yourself how it fits.

The new building will need to be valued with a "proper" appraisal, since it is no longer a small loan for you. If I assume 90% of the purchase price as the lending value, you still end up with a real mortgage on 510k remaining debt + 350k new loan. Therefore, a bank can and will recognize this positively.

So the answer from the bankers: From the bank’s perspective, no problem (please only consider child benefits for young children), whether you then have to tighten your living expenses a bit is up to you (due to the savings rate, you should manage well).
 

HilfeHilfe

2025-04-21 07:32:58
  • #4
The old house will be kept and rented out or sold?

Does the new one also need to be renovated, etc. pp?

Otherwise, sell one house after a year. Question why? Otherwise, anyone who saves that much on such a property should have no worries.
 

ypg

2025-04-21 09:15:50
  • #5


A new building does not need to be renovated.

But I also ask: is that gross realistically calculated? Are all costs included (incidental construction costs, painter, outdoor facilities, etc.)?
 

Maschi33

2025-04-21 09:53:38
  • #6


There is already at least one unknown too many in the equation, from my point of view. The biggest factors are probably how the bank assesses the value of the new property regarding a possible collateral swap and whether you can actually achieve a sale price of €1.1 million for the current house. What if it’s only €1 million? Until these two unknowns are clarified in writing, i.e., a concrete purchase offer for the house and an offer from the bank(s), no one here will probably be able to answer you.

I would say, if everything works out that way, then it is theoretically possible. It’s still intense, you’re not exactly high earners now.
 

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