Allthewayup
2025-04-20 22:51:11
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We are actually considering looking for something bigger after not even a year in the new house. And as fate would have it, a listing for a new build in our city has just appeared that has caught our eye. I don’t want to go into the background and details now – neither about our desire nor about the property.
This topic is about the sober questions: “Could we afford it and will the bank go along with it?”
Numbers, data, facts:
- Price of the desired property in Bavaria: €1.6 million (no real estate agent involved)
- Equity in the daily allowance account: €250K
- Realistic selling price current house: €1.1 million (of which €450K financed and €440K still outstanding)
- Loan 1 = plot: €600 rate (1.67% interest, 3,x% repayment, €70K outstanding of originally €140K)
- Loan 2 = house: €1,240 rate (1.3% interest, 2% repayment, €440K outstanding of originally €450K)
- De facto we would have to take out another €350K loan. About €100K of this is incidental purchase costs.
- Income: €7,600 net (2x permanent contracts, 2x child benefits) – bonuses, Christmas bonus, holiday pay, collective agreement special payments are another approx. €800-1,000 net per month.
For a year now, we have managed to save about €3,500 to 4,000 per month without even trying (often eat out, 3 cars, many trips, etc.).
We are interested in how the financial experts in this forum see the chances that the bank will take over the two existing loans with top interest rates and whether over 40% of household income just for the loans is above the reasonable level for the bank?
Assuming for the €350K we get an interest rate of 3.5% and 2% repayment, that makes €1,604 per month.
That would be €3,444 per month just for loans. Then €500 incidental costs for the house, let's round up to €4K per month. That means we would have €3,600 left to live on plus the partly contractually and/or collectively agreed special payments of €600/month (excluding bonuses). That’s €4,200/month to live on. We have always managed with less and hardly made any sacrifices, so I think theoretically that would be doable. Whether it is smart is another matter.
This topic is about the sober questions: “Could we afford it and will the bank go along with it?”
Numbers, data, facts:
- Price of the desired property in Bavaria: €1.6 million (no real estate agent involved)
- Equity in the daily allowance account: €250K
- Realistic selling price current house: €1.1 million (of which €450K financed and €440K still outstanding)
- Loan 1 = plot: €600 rate (1.67% interest, 3,x% repayment, €70K outstanding of originally €140K)
- Loan 2 = house: €1,240 rate (1.3% interest, 2% repayment, €440K outstanding of originally €450K)
- De facto we would have to take out another €350K loan. About €100K of this is incidental purchase costs.
- Income: €7,600 net (2x permanent contracts, 2x child benefits) – bonuses, Christmas bonus, holiday pay, collective agreement special payments are another approx. €800-1,000 net per month.
For a year now, we have managed to save about €3,500 to 4,000 per month without even trying (often eat out, 3 cars, many trips, etc.).
We are interested in how the financial experts in this forum see the chances that the bank will take over the two existing loans with top interest rates and whether over 40% of household income just for the loans is above the reasonable level for the bank?
Assuming for the €350K we get an interest rate of 3.5% and 2% repayment, that makes €1,604 per month.
That would be €3,444 per month just for loans. Then €500 incidental costs for the house, let's round up to €4K per month. That means we would have €3,600 left to live on plus the partly contractually and/or collectively agreed special payments of €600/month (excluding bonuses). That’s €4,200/month to live on. We have always managed with less and hardly made any sacrifices, so I think theoretically that would be doable. Whether it is smart is another matter.