grericht
2019-01-01 17:04:36
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Hello,
Background (can be skipped):
We (a family with 3 children) are planning to build a new house. We have already purchased a plot of land. We were quite naïve and bought a property with a rear house. It has 2 floors and up to 140sqm of living space. For various reasons (very poor floor plan options, no basement/cellar/storage space, uneconomical renovation) we have now been advised against it. The new plan is to build new on the other side of the plot. Currently, we are leaning towards a 1.5-story house with a gable roof (the knee wall is to be set very high in the upper floor to have the option to expand the attic). With a house footprint of about 9 by 9 m, we come to about 130-140 sqm of living space with 4 rooms and an expansion reserve of about 40 sqm and 2 rooms (3 rooms and 50 sqm if we plan a gable or a dormer). We might also want to have a basement built additionally.
Plot:
It is located in the city center. Very precisely on the planned footprint of the house there stood a corner house with a basement from 1897 until World War II (the basement was about 150 cm below ground). Around 1955 it was dismantled/reduced due to fire and explosion damage. Apparently, it was caused by an air bomb in WWII. The building materials were reused (in the GDR) and the assignment was then to fill the area 30 cm higher than the curb. We assume that the basement was not removed but filled in – but we do not know for sure.
Since we are currently looking at house providers, we would now like to have a soil survey carried out in order to determine whether:
All the house providers we have considered so far always base their cost calculations on the following values:
Does a normal soil survey give information about this? The usual dynamic probing tests would probably quickly encounter the old basement and would not provide any information?
Since I know quite exactly where the old foundations stood, I am already considering digging there. But I am unsure what it would tell me if the walls are still there or cannot be found?
Background (can be skipped):
We (a family with 3 children) are planning to build a new house. We have already purchased a plot of land. We were quite naïve and bought a property with a rear house. It has 2 floors and up to 140sqm of living space. For various reasons (very poor floor plan options, no basement/cellar/storage space, uneconomical renovation) we have now been advised against it. The new plan is to build new on the other side of the plot. Currently, we are leaning towards a 1.5-story house with a gable roof (the knee wall is to be set very high in the upper floor to have the option to expand the attic). With a house footprint of about 9 by 9 m, we come to about 130-140 sqm of living space with 4 rooms and an expansion reserve of about 40 sqm and 2 rooms (3 rooms and 50 sqm if we plan a gable or a dormer). We might also want to have a basement built additionally.
Plot:
It is located in the city center. Very precisely on the planned footprint of the house there stood a corner house with a basement from 1897 until World War II (the basement was about 150 cm below ground). Around 1955 it was dismantled/reduced due to fire and explosion damage. Apparently, it was caused by an air bomb in WWII. The building materials were reused (in the GDR) and the assignment was then to fill the area 30 cm higher than the curb. We assume that the basement was not removed but filled in – but we do not know for sure.
Since we are currently looking at house providers, we would now like to have a soil survey carried out in order to determine whether:
[*]the old basement is still underneath
[*]how it was filled in
[*]whether we could build a house without a basement on it without replacement, or whether an excavation pit would have to be dug and then refilled if we build without a basement (then we would very likely decide on having the basement)
[*]all other usual results of a soil survey
All the house providers we have considered so far always base their cost calculations on the following values:
[*]soil class 1-4
[*]soil pressure of at least 200 kN/m²
[*]modulus of elasticity Es=35 MN/m²
[*]level, slope-free plot without pressing, aggressive groundwater or stratum water
Does a normal soil survey give information about this? The usual dynamic probing tests would probably quickly encounter the old basement and would not provide any information?
Since I know quite exactly where the old foundations stood, I am already considering digging there. But I am unsure what it would tell me if the walls are still there or cannot be found?