Bad + tiles present, does not put them together well

Hello dear forum community,

Anyone who has a lot of time and willingness to help me in great detail with my guest bathroom tiling planning is kindly invited. I have made an effort to create a meaningful sketch.



Background:
The bathroom already has screed, interior plaster, and toilet pre-wall. I bought wall tiles a while ago. I would have liked to consult the tiler very early on, but the main contractor did not respond to my inquiries. :rolleyes: I had to buy tiles at some point to not jeopardize the construction progress. The staff at the bathroom showrooms and tile stores advised me, but the tiler now sees it differently and finds cutting tiles problematic. Only where the cut edge is in a silicone joint (where the wall meets the floor or in wall-to-wall corners) would this be okay; otherwise, you would always see the difference to the factory edge, or there could be chipping.

Unfortunately, the toilet pre-wall and the shower partition (at least in height) cannot be fully covered with whole uncut tiles in the format I bought. :oops: To make it even more complicated, the toilet connection is not exactly centered in the pre-wall but is offset by 1 cm, and when the tiles on the left and right are added, the asymmetry will increase. And I have a picture mosaic 60 x 80 cm (fish :) ) that is supposed to go on the shower partition.

And if that’s not challenging enough: It would be great if we could use grout color that matches the tile mosaic exactly—however, not on the shower partition itself, because otherwise the contours of the mosaic image would be lost in it. :D

If I can’t think of anything else, I’ll have to buy mosaic tiles with which the pre-wall and partition could be covered differently than the walls. (And I would have them grouted in silver-gray ;) and the walls in blue. Too much?)

However, I have some slight doubts whether the picture mosaic will look good in the midst of small mosaic tiles. It’s hard to imagine concretely. I would feel more comfortable if, except for the picture mosaic, there was only one white tile always in the same format. Introducing a second format or mosaic tile, well, must be done with care. But it could work?

Or should I just let the tiler work with the existing tile and accept the cut edges on top of the toilet pre-wall and wherever else necessary? What I wouldn’t find optimal are many more (mosaic) tiles or wall joints near the floor around the toilet. When mopping there, those joints will definitely get dirty quickly. :mad:

Unfortunately, the tiler was on site only once and is already hard to reach again for me. I get the impression that he doesn’t want to do much planning but just start and improvise. I would rather have a good plan. o_O

I look forward to opinions and ideas. And will sleep on it for another night or two...

Best regards

willWohnen

This is basically terribly planned. ;)

I would get more 30x60 tiles, then for the WC recess lay 60 cm tiles to the left and right from the WC as the center line, cutting the ones on the outside. I would start with the tiles from the top, at 91.5 cm. Add an edge and also from the middle, place the 60 cm tiles to the left and right on top.
Here you see the upper edge of my WC tank. However, there is a cut tile on top.



Then cover the 101 cm wall from the right at the same height lines as the WC tank also with 30x60 tiles.
Somewhere in between the recess for the mosaic.

Above all, I would do one thing: depict it beforehand with a graphics program, assuming about 3mm grout lines.

Hello . Thanks for the photos, they look good. So you don’t seem to have any problem with the cut tile edges? Do you see a difference?

In the meantime, some changes have occurred regarding the conditions. First of all, I was wrong, the tile in question is 25 x 40 cm, not 25 x 50 cm. The other tiles, which we thought were the same but just in different sizes, are actually not exactly the same. :rolleyes: Bad luck. We better not combine them with the ones we have. So I would have to make do with the 25 x 50 cm ones or buy contrasting mosaic tiles. The 5 x 5 cm mosaic tiles (mats) I saw, I guess I’d need about 4 sqm, which comes to 160 euros extra, well. Still cheaper than completely new tiles for the whole bathroom.

A graphical representation, sure, would be great, but I think anyone who has tried something like that before knows what an enormous effort that is. Which moreover might not necessarily be crowned by optimal success, or can only be represented approximately and not realistically. Did you have a specific program in mind, can you recommend one..?

I don't quite understand the problem.

There are edge strips everywhere on the edges. So cutting shouldn’t be the problem, right? Therefore, no problem with the WC either. The solution from .

Our tiler measured our built shower in the main bathroom from above and divided it accordingly. The bottom tile will then be cut. This way, he gets straight edges at the top (where you also look more than at the bottom) and the bottom would have to be cut anyway because there is a slope towards the drain channel. All other wall tiles will then be aligned at the joints of these tiles.

That's true. My entire tile alignment also started at the shower wall.

.. I would choose Corel Draw for such a plan, for example.

And, even with the rails, a very good tile cutter is a prerequisite.

Hello. So our GÜ definitely sees a problem with cut edges, even where these stainless steel strips will still be placed, as you rightly say.

As far as I know, there is always grout between the strip and the tile, right? And he means that you can see on the edge lying in the grout that it was cut. That was also a point of discussion in the upstairs bathroom. There, wood-patterned tiles are supposed to go to the edges of the building projections, and he said that there could also be small surface chips in the decor if his tiler cuts them. I suspect maybe they’ve already had trouble with customers who didn’t like that afterwards, or more tiles had to be purchased. In itself, the approach to make it easier for the tiler and avoid such cuts that can cause trouble is good, I think it’s reasonable.

In the upstairs bathroom, we have planned around it, but in the guest bathroom with the toilet building projection, it’s hardly avoidable. If you start with the whole tile on the left edge, then the toilet would be neither centered in the projection nor centered on a tile nor exactly on a grout line. And I imagine that would look noticeably ugly. Or am I being too strict, would you find that acceptable?

There are two more things that bother me a bit. If you did it the way you describe, then there would be a horizontal grout line around the whole room at about 15 cm height. That is still a height where I’m using the mop head when mopping the floor. If there were a whole tile at the bottom, then this grout line would only be at 25 cm height and certainly safer from regular splashing by me. :) The second point is that to have the grout lines on the toilet building projection and the shower partition at the same height, when tiling the shower partition with whole tiles, these would have to be extended upwards by about 15 cm. That’s quite a lot and would be unfortunate, because then hardly any daylight would fall into the shower from above, which currently during the day is apparently still quite sufficient without turning on the light.