Awning material and color consultation?

  • Erstellt am 2019-02-18 15:05:39

matte

2019-02-26 09:01:12
  • #1
I'll take the liberty of stepping in here for my concern.

We are currently also in the process of gathering information regarding an awning. It should be 5m wide and have a minimum 4m projection.
For unprotected wall mounting on the south side, we would prefer a full cassette.
The whole system is operated via the KNX blind actuator, so a simple motor is sufficient. Somfy or similar is therefore not needed. A weather station with a wind sensor is already present.
We don’t need lighting, infrared heaters, or other extras. Just a simple awning that provides shade and can stay outside even during a sudden downpour. With simple logic in KNX, it should also be possible to solve that the awning automatically extends to dry if it was retracted while wet.
Of course, it would be nice if we also liked how the thing looks, but we are rather indifferent, and functionality + price/performance clearly take priority over aesthetics. Most importantly, the price must not suffer in favor of better looks.

Yesterday we visited our window manufacturer who sells Markilux.
We had several options shown to us and also received offers. The prices are quite transparent. We were always given the base price + surcharge for the housing in RAL desired color. Installation is a flat rate including materials of 400€ net. There is a 25% discount on the list price and installation (I hate such discount battles) + 3% cash discount. The following prices are all all-inclusive prices including tax and installation:

Markilux 970 (500*350): Standard 3,627€ / RAL 3,875€
Square, in the closed state just a rectangular box, which would also fit better to the house, but only 350cm projection.
With bionic cord instead of twin chain, which is supposed to be quieter and more durable.

Markilux 990 (500*300): Standard 2,582€ / RAL 2,830€
Not the most beautiful, and only 300cm projection as well. With twin chain, bionic cord optional. This one was immediately ruled out due to the small projection.

Markilux 1710 (500*350): Standard 2,925€ / RAL 3,188€
Probably the all-time classic, and it looks like it too
Only 350cm projection. With bionic cord.

Markilux 5010 (500*400): Standard 3,877€ / RAL 4,139€
The cheapest with 400cm projection, also quite nice to look at.
With twin chain, bionic cord optional. Our favorite.

Markilux 6000 (500*400): Standard 4,196€ / RAL 4,457€
Seems quite identical to the 5010, but the suspension is apparently more elegant; you don’t see any screws, etc.
Comes with bionic cord as standard.

What to make of all this? They are damn expensive all of them. Hardware store or online order + self-installation is out of the question. That’s all too risky for me with such a big unit. I’d rather spend a bit more now and have peace of mind for the next 15-20 years.
I’m wondering if it really has to be this great new bionic cord, which even drove the Fraunhofer Institute to give up. As far as I understand, it would cause a surcharge on the 5010, making the price difference to the 6000 not so big anymore...

I still have two other Markilux partners in the larger area, which I will now ask for alternative offers.
What is the opinion about other manufacturers? Two dealers sell Weinor, a recommendation from a friend has Lewens in the range. Warema can also be found here.

Not so easy at all...
 

Nordlys

2019-02-26 09:14:39
  • #2
Well. Bionic tendon. If that isn’t a Dyneema reinforced webbing from sailmaker supplies. Ok, practically stretch-free and completely UV resistant because of that. But only 20 euros more expensive than something with a chain. Karsten
 

matte

2019-02-26 09:18:44
  • #3
Yes, that's what this great tendon is like

Call the seller now to find out how much the additional cost would be, then I'll see further.
 

Nordlys

2019-02-26 13:03:39
  • #4
Bionic tendon in original use. K.
 

matte

2019-02-26 15:02:10
  • #5
The tendon would cost an additional €70.

I find the statement from another company much more important, that they no longer install awnings on brick walls with T8/T9 bricks because they have had so many problems that the brick cannot withstand it in the long term!

We do have a concrete overlay above the shutter box of the window that one could mount on, but that would have to be clarified on site first. Especially, because the overlay is only about 4m wide and the awning is supposed to be 5m wide.

The employee said that they have often had problems where the brick breaks out after some time, many competitors don’t even mention this because it usually holds for the first 2 years and only then causes problems.

Man, and I thought: "Build solidly instead, then you don’t have problems fastening something."

Is it really that problematic?
 

brotpeter

2019-02-26 15:49:02
  • #6


Yes, it is. Definitely ask how exactly the fastening will be executed. Ideally including a calculation that proves the resulting forces (with 5m width x 4m length, quite a lot adds up (there are tons acting when the wind picks up...)) can be absorbed.

Usually, corresponding threaded rods are glued into the masonry... this can all be calculated...
 

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