s0nyHess
2020-06-02 16:40:23
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Hello everyone,
we want to start the shell construction in March 2021. The building is in BaWü and for the basement + 1 full floor + knee wall floor, we have shortlisted two construction companies through a known architect based on the received tender prices.
The tender was based on a fixed price. According to acquaintances, construction companies always hide a certain (fear/error) buffer of several thousand euros somewhere in their offers in case something unforeseen happens during construction, so that the site does not become a loss-making project for them.
Since our second child is due in February (parental leave), I intend to help a lot with the shell construction. Therefore, we are now considering moving away from the fixed price and building on an hourly basis with one of the two companies. But with which one?
Company A has a price of 214,000 EUR and Company B 227,000 EUR.
In Company A, the price for ground and masonry work is almost 40,000 EUR more expensive than in Company B (material + labor costs). However, Company B has significantly higher site setup costs and also a higher hourly wage (which would probably be important for hourly/time-based work).
What questions would you ask in the conversation with the two construction companies to make the right decision afterward? The companies will hardly admit in which position they have built in their buffer.
I almost think that with Company A I might manage to get a lower price with good cooperation because:
a) low site setup costs, which are always fixed anyway
b) lower hourly wage
You simply do not know how much of the almost 40,000 EUR difference in the ground and masonry work is material and how much is hourly rates. Hm, can you give tips?
Which items (besides hourly wages) would you look at if you now want to build on time/hourly basis instead of fixed price?
Many thanks for your suggestions.
we want to start the shell construction in March 2021. The building is in BaWü and for the basement + 1 full floor + knee wall floor, we have shortlisted two construction companies through a known architect based on the received tender prices.
The tender was based on a fixed price. According to acquaintances, construction companies always hide a certain (fear/error) buffer of several thousand euros somewhere in their offers in case something unforeseen happens during construction, so that the site does not become a loss-making project for them.
Since our second child is due in February (parental leave), I intend to help a lot with the shell construction. Therefore, we are now considering moving away from the fixed price and building on an hourly basis with one of the two companies. But with which one?
Company A has a price of 214,000 EUR and Company B 227,000 EUR.
In Company A, the price for ground and masonry work is almost 40,000 EUR more expensive than in Company B (material + labor costs). However, Company B has significantly higher site setup costs and also a higher hourly wage (which would probably be important for hourly/time-based work).
What questions would you ask in the conversation with the two construction companies to make the right decision afterward? The companies will hardly admit in which position they have built in their buffer.
I almost think that with Company A I might manage to get a lower price with good cooperation because:
a) low site setup costs, which are always fixed anyway
b) lower hourly wage
You simply do not know how much of the almost 40,000 EUR difference in the ground and masonry work is material and how much is hourly rates. Hm, can you give tips?
Which items (besides hourly wages) would you look at if you now want to build on time/hourly basis instead of fixed price?
Many thanks for your suggestions.