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2017-06-25 19:31:22
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Dear forum,
I signed up here because my wife (29) and I (34) are considering moving back to our rural home region and building a house in the not too distant future, after years of restlessness in various big cities in Germany. We are still at the very beginning and everything is still very vague. However, the numbers I have to juggle give me a stomachache, so I am asking for an assessment.
We have about 95,000 euros in equity (all together). I am a lifelong civil servant and earn around 3,800 euros net per month, with my monthly net income increasing by about 100-150 euros every two years (again in April 2018) until the maximum level of about 5,000 euros is reached. My wife has a permanent job and earns around 2,300 euros net, in two years she will earn about 2,900 euros (this is contractually regulated).
For our current rental apartment (120m²) we pay around 1,500 euros net per month. After all other expenses, we save around 2,000 euros per month, although I must say that both of us will have car loans in the next three years. We have - NO - children yet, but we are planning that.
Since our apartment is already 120m², we should get bigger with a house. We are aiming for 160/170m². Part of the living space (e.g. an office) can gladly be in the basement. The basement should be included, as well as a garage. I am aiming for a plot size of about 700m², anything above that will be too big for us, especially with regard to garden maintenance.
Developed plots in our home municipality cost 170 euros per square meter. Architect and engineering services will not incur (!) costs for us. Regarding the garden, some work can perhaps be done by ourselves, but that is still too vague to rely on. I estimate a volume of around 500,000 euros in total. Is that too optimistically low? We would then be dealing with a loan amount of 400,000 euros. This amount worries me because of its size, whether it is manageable. I calculate back and forth and think that at 30 years and 2.5% interest we would end up at around 1,600 euros per month. That corresponds roughly to our monthly cold rent. Would you still have concerns in my place or go ahead? The numbers discourage me.
I signed up here because my wife (29) and I (34) are considering moving back to our rural home region and building a house in the not too distant future, after years of restlessness in various big cities in Germany. We are still at the very beginning and everything is still very vague. However, the numbers I have to juggle give me a stomachache, so I am asking for an assessment.
We have about 95,000 euros in equity (all together). I am a lifelong civil servant and earn around 3,800 euros net per month, with my monthly net income increasing by about 100-150 euros every two years (again in April 2018) until the maximum level of about 5,000 euros is reached. My wife has a permanent job and earns around 2,300 euros net, in two years she will earn about 2,900 euros (this is contractually regulated).
For our current rental apartment (120m²) we pay around 1,500 euros net per month. After all other expenses, we save around 2,000 euros per month, although I must say that both of us will have car loans in the next three years. We have - NO - children yet, but we are planning that.
Since our apartment is already 120m², we should get bigger with a house. We are aiming for 160/170m². Part of the living space (e.g. an office) can gladly be in the basement. The basement should be included, as well as a garage. I am aiming for a plot size of about 700m², anything above that will be too big for us, especially with regard to garden maintenance.
Developed plots in our home municipality cost 170 euros per square meter. Architect and engineering services will not incur (!) costs for us. Regarding the garden, some work can perhaps be done by ourselves, but that is still too vague to rely on. I estimate a volume of around 500,000 euros in total. Is that too optimistically low? We would then be dealing with a loan amount of 400,000 euros. This amount worries me because of its size, whether it is manageable. I calculate back and forth and think that at 30 years and 2.5% interest we would end up at around 1,600 euros per month. That corresponds roughly to our monthly cold rent. Would you still have concerns in my place or go ahead? The numbers discourage me.