Sewage pipes, drinking water, and heating pipes?

  • Erstellt am 2011-06-28 16:46:42

dasba

2011-06-28 16:46:42
  • #1
Hello,

since I couldn't really organize my topic, I wanted to ask if someone can name a good manufacturer for the three pipelines mentioned above.

Details:
The sewage pipe should include insulation to prevent hearing the "annoying" noises.

Drinking water and heating pipes/pipes as well.

Thank you very much in advance

best regards dasba
 

TomTom1

2011-06-30 07:33:41
  • #2
Hello!

I don’t quite understand the question....... Water-carrying pipes are always additionally insulated for the purpose of insulation and decoupling; otherwise, I have so far mainly considered the material (copper or plastic/aluminum).

Drain pipes are also available in sound-insulated versions for little money (for pre-wall installation, it would be sufficient to insulate the vertical pipes). I am not aware of any tests regarding this.

Regards,
Tomtom.
 

dasba

2011-06-30 07:56:59
  • #3
Hi TomTom1,

thank you for your reply.

You are right. I will ask the question properly again.

1. Which material is good or best?
2. Which connection system? (I read that plug connections are not supposed to be very good?!)
3. The whole thing should be as quiet as possible. Which insulation or soundproofing can you recommend?
4. Which manufacturers do you know for the cables? (because you said, "you can get them for little money")

Thanks and best regards

dasba
 

TomTom1

2011-06-30 12:20:11
  • #4
Hello!

You are really overthinking this. In a single-family house, sound insulation plays a rather minor role because the potential for disturbance is much lower.

In addition, noises usually come from the burner (e.g., in an oil heating system) or from the cistern. Water-carrying pipes actually do not make their own noises.

With wastewater pipes, problems in this regard can arise if the pipe cross-section is wrong (too large).

If a product were significantly better than all others, there would be no others, right?

Besides, there are also the factors price and workmanship quality. So if the craftsman you trust has already installed a product 7,435 times and is now forced by you to install something else, the workmanship will a) become more expensive and b) probably worse.

Protection against structure-borne sound in water pipes only occurs through decoupling – the material actually doesn't matter. Wherever the pipe comes into contact with other components, sound is transmitted; therefore, the EXECUTION is decisive.

For my current build, I took copper pipes (again). These have weaknesses (pinhole corrosion). Whether plastic would have been better will show in 10 to 20 years. In the old property, a solder joint already came undone – see explanations about the execution. If something is done sloppily, the technology is secondary.

The insulation serves thermal insulation and not soundproofing. The best protection against structure-borne sound would be NOTHING, because NOTHING transmits nothing!

The sound-insulated wastewater pipes are somewhat thicker-walled – the manufacturer did not matter to me.

I was content to double the wall at a critical point (wastewater pipe in the dining room wall) (mass helps against airborne sound); but there were other reasons for that as well.

Regards, Tomtom.
 

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