But for HD and Astra, you generally don't need an 80cm dish in good old Germany, not even in bad weather or a little snow. With 80cm, you can still get an Astra at 28.8 in the middle of DE even with 90% of all thunderstorms. The problem with an 80cm dish is the fact that you need at least a 100cm mast, and that in turn requires at least 8 pieces of 40x40x4 plates for a secure stand, meaning 120kg on about 0.64sqm. We chose 50x50x5 for our bracket, which corresponds to 230kg per sqm. Not every flat roof can handle that.