Allthewayup
2022-04-07 21:32:59
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Hello everyone,
I would now like to present my project here, which is supposed to start in October 2022. Since I have been quietly reading here for some time and I keep hearing that there are couples who do not yet have children but wish to have them, I hope to bring some clarity to the financial situation with our cost breakdown (we have 2 kids) in case of a "lack" of income.
The following profile can of course only be fully understood with a lot of additional explanations and clarifications, so please excuse me if not all points/things seem immediately understandable and logical to everyone. Since 2018, after moving into an existing single-family house, we have been keeping a household budget and can therefore provide quite precise figures for our situation.
What still interests me is from former home builders and current homeowners the topic of incidental costs for similarly sized construction projects. I am also interested in opinions on financing, as I personally believe that as a permanent single earner, this would not be affordable. However, since the wife wants to return to full-time work as soon as possible – if the age of the children and circumstances allow it – the second salary should come back in the next 3-5 years. Before parental leave, that was about €2,200 net.
Have fun reading now:
After deducting the large installment, €1,333 per month would remain according to the current calculation. However, since living expenses tend to rise, we round that down to €1,000. That should be enough breathing room for the next 2-3 years before the kids start school.
Unfortunately, we missed out on the EE40 subsidy, so as a cost relief measure, we had to drop the garage for now.
I look forward to your questions / feedback / comments / tips.
I would now like to present my project here, which is supposed to start in October 2022. Since I have been quietly reading here for some time and I keep hearing that there are couples who do not yet have children but wish to have them, I hope to bring some clarity to the financial situation with our cost breakdown (we have 2 kids) in case of a "lack" of income.
The following profile can of course only be fully understood with a lot of additional explanations and clarifications, so please excuse me if not all points/things seem immediately understandable and logical to everyone. Since 2018, after moving into an existing single-family house, we have been keeping a household budget and can therefore provide quite precise figures for our situation.
What still interests me is from former home builders and current homeowners the topic of incidental costs for similarly sized construction projects. I am also interested in opinions on financing, as I personally believe that as a permanent single earner, this would not be affordable. However, since the wife wants to return to full-time work as soon as possible – if the age of the children and circumstances allow it – the second salary should come back in the next 3-5 years. Before parental leave, that was about €2,200 net.
Have fun reading now:
General information about you: | ||
Who are you? | married couple | |
How old are you? | Both 33 | |
Do you have children? | Two | |
Are children planned? | Family planning completed | |
What do you do professionally? | He developer, she currently on parental leave until 07/22, before that store manager | |
Are you employed, self-employed, retired, housewife, househusband, etc...? | He employed + small business owner, she on parental leave | |
How many hours do you work? | 35h job + 5h side business | |
Income and asset situation: | ||
What income do you have (gross/net)? | He €4,000 net (without bonuses -> approx. €6k net p.a.) + €200 side business; she from 09/22 base €450) | |
How much child benefit do you get? | €440.00 | |
Other transfer payments like parental allowance, sickness benefit, etc...? | Parental allowance €600 until (07/22) and €250 family allowance until 07/24 but this is not included in the monthly income (see below) because it is finite | |
How much equity do you have? | €255k (another €22k will be set aside during construction as an additional price buffer) | |
How much equity do you want to invest in the house project? | €246k (9k price buffer) | |
Housing costs: | ||
Current cold rent | Living in the house we bought with the land from the grandparents in 2018 | |
Electricity | €67.00 | |
Heating oil | €110.00 | |
Water, sewage, garbage fees, street cleaning | €46.00 | |
Telephone, internet, mobile phone | €48.00 | |
Mobility costs: | ||
Car loan (or savings rate for new car) | €150.00 | |
Insurance | €36.00 | |
Taxes | €20.00 | |
Fuel | €40.00 | |
Repairs | €30.00 | |
Insurance costs: | ||
Private health insurance (also supplementary insurance, daily sickness allowance etc.) | €26.50 | |
Liability insurance (also pets) | €12.00 | |
Capital or risk life insurance | €22.00 | |
Legal protection insurance | €28.00 | |
Living expenses: | ||
Groceries | €600.00 | |
Restaurant costs | €50.00 | |
Personal care/drugstore | €50.00 | |
Clothing | €120.00 | |
Furniture | €60.00 | |
Daycare/school fees (and meal money) | €170.00 | |
Toys | €40.00 | |
Savings contributions: | ||
Vacation | Has so far been financed from bonuses or additional work in the side business "just in time" and did not have to be “saved up” | |
House | Variable between €2.5k and €5k depending on bonuses | [LEFT] |
General reserve formation | €150.00 | |
Other expenses: | ||
Loans? | €600 (loan for the plot), €90k remaining debt, 3.66% repayment, 1.67% interest, 15 years fixed interest, remaining debt after 15 years (2033) €26k | |
Other? (property tax, broadcasting fee, chimney sweep) | €14 property tax, €18 GEZ, €10 chimney sweep | |
Income and expense totals: | ||
Total income | €5,090.00 | |
Total expenses | €2,517.00 | |
Balance | €2,573.00 | |
General information about the property: | ||
How large is the plot? | 300m² | |
What are its dimensions? | 15x20m | |
What is the land value? | €1100/m² | |
New build, old building (year built), house type? | New build, 2 full floors, fully basemented (white tank) | |
Garages? | Dropped from the plan after the KfW subsidy expired | |
Living area / usable area | 157m² / 75m² | |
What is the market value of the plot and house after completion? | Market value approx. €1.1 million (3 reference properties sold in the last 12 months for €1.15 – 1.4 million) | |
Construction or purchase costs: | ||
Plot costs | Remaining debt €90k | Purchased in 2018 and financed separately |
[LEFT]Demolition of old building including disposal (100m²) | €21k | |
House price as a flat rate (EE40 standard) | €509k | |
Building application/permit | €0 | €830 already paid |
[LEFT]Upgrades | €16k | Approx. €35k are already included in the house price, which we upgraded in advance (windows, flooring, technology) |
Soil survey | €0 | €2,900 already paid |
Additional disposal costs for excavation (risk position) | €5k | Excavation included in flat rate, but if contaminated material is found in the soil (according to soil survey unlikely) it will be charged differently |
Groundwater retention measures (risk position) | €33k | According to soil survey, water possible at 2.5m below ground level; new builds in the area only partially affected |
Outdoor facilities | €38k | Deliberately budgeted somewhat higher since it will only be done in spring 2024 |
Public development | €12k | Consistently short development paths (<3m); electricity/telecom already available, water/sewage missing |
Notary fees, surveying costs (stake-out) | €8k | €2k for notary + mortgage already paid |
Furnishing (kitchen, furniture, lamps) | €44k | |
Construction water / construction electricity / drying screed (oil heating) | €7k | |
Cost summary: | ||
Total costs | €696k | |
Deductible equity | €246k | |
Financing amount | €450k | |
Necessary loan details: | ||
Loan amount | €450k | [LEFT] |
Type of loan (e.g. annuity loan, bullet loan etc.) | Annuity loan | [LEFT] |
Interest rate (p.a. nominal, otherwise effective) | 1.30% | [LEFT] |
Fixed interest period | 15 years | [LEFT] |
Remaining debt at end of fixed interest period | €300k | [LEFT] |
Fictional total term until full repayment | 38 years | [LEFT] |
Initial repayment rate | 2.00% | [LEFT] |
Monthly rate | €1,240.00 | [LEFT] |
Are special repayments possible? (Please specify amount) | €22.5k p.a. | [LEFT] |
After deducting the large installment, €1,333 per month would remain according to the current calculation. However, since living expenses tend to rise, we round that down to €1,000. That should be enough breathing room for the next 2-3 years before the kids start school.
Unfortunately, we missed out on the EE40 subsidy, so as a cost relief measure, we had to drop the garage for now.
I look forward to your questions / feedback / comments / tips.