Is financing for house construction realistic?

  • Erstellt am 2018-06-06 04:14:20

Johnny7

2018-06-06 15:03:28
  • #1
I am generally negative about BU. In my opinion, it's basically unnecessary with civil service. Possibly useful for workers. For office employees: what do I want with 1500€ or 2000€ if I’m so messed up that I can’t even get into the office in a wheelchair? Then you have to assume basic security and needing care, etc. The car and house will then be lower priority and the BU pension will be offset against basic security. Legal expenses insurance is then mandatory! No insurance voluntarily pays for BU! Well, life is a risk and fate of course happens, but whether you have to, may, and want to insure your whole life is really something each person must decide personally with their family! One more thing on the actual topic: Keep in mind that building new ALWAYS brings unpredictable costs from experience! Even if you think you’ve taken everything into account. Is the kitchen already included? Otherwise, plan another 20k. Otherwise, as I said, the income is good and if you can’t buy a house with it (then who can), then something is going wrong in our society. Ok, that’s it now or we’ll drift into politics!
 

Kabelmodem87

2018-06-06 15:21:24
  • #2


Just as you wrote it, that was/is basically my view of things, which is why we haven’t had anything like that until now. Everyone tells you that disability insurance is the most important thing you must have, yes, because it’s the insurance that yields the highest profits – of course, the loan amount changes the sense of security, although you really should consider that in many cases where payments are actually made, you are put on the same level as with term life insurance because you probably won’t live much longer or are so messed up that you don’t need the house anymore.

Regarding ventilation, yes, after 5 years you are entitled to 35% of the last net salary if you become unable to work, but it’s still only 35%.

You have to be clear whether you want to insure yourself every year for case X for €4000 (roughly for both) that you probably have to fight for painfully in court when severely ill, or whether you take it for early repayment and thus reduce the risk of heavy debt every year. The critical years are probably the first 15, especially if property values also decline, which is something to consider. If the value of the property is at least as high as the outstanding debt, you have to sell but at least you’re debt-free.

Regarding net income and house construction, yes, you’re probably right, of course we could also build for €200k less with a smaller developed plot where the neighbor can eat from our plate, without a garage, etc., but then it’s not our “dream” of owning a home.
 

HilfeHilfe

2018-06-06 18:38:26
  • #3
Better to increase RLV. Because it is declining and there is still a delta to the outstanding balance. Opinions differ when it comes to OFFICE. I have one because I am the main earner. There is also an EU pension (still). For you, it would be a DU insurance, right? Yes, that's how it is with construction sums... and special repayments are also such a thing. Statistically, they are often not exercised.
 

apokolok

2018-06-07 16:03:01
  • #4
I basically see it in the green zone.
You already have a child, so both incomes can largely be considered sustainable and a high annuity is also doable.

Financing the land initially with a variable rate is smart, so you won’t be tied to one institution later on.

I would definitely also turn the car into cash, in 5 years it will hardly be worth anything anyway.

What would also be interesting: how far along is the planning for the construction? If a lot is already clear, of course you can wrap everything up now.
Maybe you give a rough overview of the project so one can estimate how realistic the 440k is. That is usually the crux.

You can skip BU, I am completely on your line or that of . 1500€ is too little anyway, it only costs money and not a small amount. The money is better spent on special repayments.
Definitely take out risk life insurance, making the policyholder and the insured person crosswise so there are no problems in the event of an emergency.

The lending value is calculated from the total value of the property (land + construction costs without incidental costs) to equity. The paid-off part of the land counts as equity.

You can start with a 2% repayment rate, you’re young enough and due to the planned child it makes sense to put existing funds into special repayments, and when parental leave comes, you go on vacation. You should make sure that changing the repayment rate is possible.
I wouldn’t be afraid of 270k in 15 years either, you’ll still be in the middle of life and will be able to manage it even if the interest rate then is 5% (which I don’t believe).
In my opinion, at the moment it’s fundamentally better for a good night’s sleep to have debts than cash assets.

As I said, plan the project properly AND stick to the plan, include a buffer, then it will work. A larger follow-up financing should be avoided; that could make parental leave extremely uncomfortable.

I am now assuming a property value of ~600,000€ and equity of 130,000€ (80k + 30k car + 20k other savings) and incidental acquisition costs of 10k.
This would put you exactly at 80% lending and you’d get out with a very good 1.6% over 15 years with a rate of about 1430€.
 

Kabelmodem87

2018-06-07 17:06:12
  • #5


Thank you for your effort and detailed reply.

Regarding the planning of the house and project:

It will be built and planned with an architect without builder ties.. largely turnkey without own work (or only to an insignificant extent possibly for outdoor facilities). Starting construction this year is no longer possible, we are still in preliminary planning and cost estimation.. no building permit will be granted before October/November, a positive preliminary building approval is available.

Flat roof house with 150 sqm living space with attached double garage, gas heating and central ventilation system (additional cost ventilation system 10-12k), no fireplace, no basement, 35 sqm terrace, 40-50 sqm driveway.. no frills but also not the cheapest materials to be installed.

Budgeted for house and garage medium standard: 330k (including interior finishing, floors, painting, etc.)
Incidentals (architect, structural engineer...): 55k
Development costs: 10k
Outdoor facilities: 25k
Interior furnishings: 25k (we don’t want a luxury kitchen and can reuse a lot from the old apartment)

Underestimated?

What is currently a common variable interest rate for the land?

Regarding the topic of commitment interest (Bereitstellungszins) for understanding:

Assuming we would already take out the house loan this year, but only fully need it at the beginning of 2020 (to complete the house construction), after 12 months from closing commitment interest would be charged? Can we also avoid that by simply drawing and repaying the loan fully, although the house is not yet move-in ready? Of course, we would have to shoulder the rent additionally, but that would probably be possible for us. The advantage would be that we could still secure a good offer this year.

Thank you very much already!
 

Fuchur

2018-06-07 19:03:02
  • #6
Provision interest: The bank naturally wants to see certain documents/calculations for the evaluation in order to approve the loan. If all of that is available, then your approach is basically possible.

BUT

1. Provision interest is not exactly cheap, as for the full amount per month a sum accumulates, practically without any service in return for you.

2. The trick with disbursing doesn’t work, because the bank either pays the invoices itself or only pays out to you if corresponding invoices/construction status are present.

Variable interest: We financed our property in exactly this way in December 2017 at 2.05% effective. Adjustment review every 3 months, so far unchanged.
 

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