Individual room control in old buildings with standard panel radiators

  • Erstellt am 2016-11-07 21:22:28

Umbauer_1234

2016-11-07 21:22:28
  • #1
Good evening,

in an old building apartment, I would like to control the radiators in a room individually via an electronic control. I want to mount the thermostat of type 1098 U-101 from Busch Jaeger once per room at a central position. The controller should then control the room via an electric valve that replaces the thermostat valve on the radiator.

Why not conventional thermostat valves? The electric control is more comfortable and – I hope – more economical through precise temporal control of the heating demand.

For this, I have the following questions:

1. Does the idea I have outlined work?
2. This is the essential point: what kind of valve do I use on the radiators? Is there anything to consider besides the two variants NC and NO?
3. I am also unclear whether such a control system makes sense for panel radiators. I usually read about this in connection with underfloor heating.

I do not want to use a radio-based control. The system should preferably run on 230 V.

If anyone has experience with such a control system: I am grateful for any hints and feedback. I am especially interested in information about possible valve heads.

Best regards,
Frank
 

Umbauer_1234

2016-11-10 19:50:29
  • #2
Good evening,

does anyone have an idea how to implement the control, or whether it works as sketched?

Best regards
Frank
 

ErikErdgas

2016-11-15 16:07:13
  • #3
Hello Frank,

in principle, I think your planned idea is feasible. Wireless solutions are often used in existing buildings simply because the wiring to the thermostat and the control valves is missing. According to the instructions on page 4, the temperature controller requires control valves that are normally closed, i.e., NC. Is there a specific reason for the chosen controller? Generally, you can certainly find significantly cheaper room temperature controllers.

Regarding the selection of control valves, no significant performance features come to mind. In terms of dead times, power consumption, etc., I think most actuators behave similarly.

Best regards, Erik
 

Umbauer_1234

2016-11-19 00:59:31
  • #4
Hello Erik,

thank you very much for your answer.

I do not want to use a wireless solution. On the one hand, I do not want battery-powered devices, on the other hand, I want a direct connection between the thermostat and the control valve. Since the electrical installation will be completely renewed anyway, laying the necessary cables is not a problem.

The controller was only meant as a principle example. Now I know that it works. I will choose the controller to match the switch system.

Thanks again for your support.

Best regards Frank
 

ErikErdgas

2016-11-22 15:58:10
  • #5
Hello Frank,

the wireless solution was also suggested by me primarily for existing buildings where the infrastructure is not available. For your case, as you mentioned, the wired solution is recommended both from the perspective of power supply and the more stable data transmission.

Best regards, Erik
 

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