huge water damage due to leaking underfloor heating

  • Erstellt am 2012-06-16 11:47:40

posterino

2012-06-16 11:47:40
  • #1
Hello dear forum,

we are currently having our single-family house built by a developer.

Three days ago, I inspected the construction site and was horrified to find that drying devices have been set up throughout the entire ground floor and in all rooms the screed has been drilled (one to two openings per room) and hoses have been laid in for drying.
On all walls (gypsum plaster), from the floor upwards, I found water stains about 15-20 cm high.
Our house has no basement and is built on a slab.
The floor construction is as follows:
slab, waterproofing membrane, insulation (PS rigid foam WLG 035), cement screed - including underfloor heating.
No floor covering has been installed yet.

Our site manager has not informed us of this serious defect until today.
After requesting a statement by email yesterday, I have still received no response.

Our house handover (end of June) and thus the move-in date are therefore obsolete.

My huge request now is: how should I proceed or what should I consider to avoid unpleasant surprises later regarding mold and other consequential damage.

Questions:
Should I stop all payments to the developer immediately (outstanding claims approx. 22,000 euros)?
Can I charge the developer for the electricity (approx. 100 kilowatt-hours/day) for the drying devices - meter readings have been recorded?
We have already terminated our rental apartment and must now try to negotiate an extension with the landlord. If repairing the construction defects takes a very long time, e.g. due to dismantling because otherwise the moisture cannot be removed from the floor, specifically the moisture under the insulation, can I claim the additional rental costs from the developer? The building contract only states that in case of delay 50 euros per day are paid from Monday to Friday and the maximum claim is 5% of the construction sum. Does this also apply to delays caused by legal disputes?

And simply any tips on how we should proceed in this case. We have a small daughter of 13 months and definitely want to avoid any risk that she might have problems due to mold or other construction defects.

Many thanks to all who can give us helpful advice.

Bernd
 

Der Da

2012-06-16 12:57:16
  • #2
Well, a stupid thing, but it can happen. You don't need to worry about mold because there are [Bautrockner] inside. And the costs for that should be covered by the insurance of the party responsible. The [Bautrockner] will dry everything out again. What this means for you otherwise, or how much money you can withhold, can and may only be told to you by a lawyer.
 

Bauexperte

2012-06-17 09:57:22
  • #3
Hello Bernd,


First of all, the wording "serious defect" is wrong; the house has not yet been handed over, so it is not a defect. What is certainly a mistake on the part of the site manager is not informing you about the measure and the associated "possible" delay in construction progress.


Not necessarily.


Definitely calm down


For what reason? If the outstanding installment payments relate to properly completed trades, you cannot withhold payments arbitrarily just because the house does not yet meet your expectations elsewhere. What you can certainly consider is reducing the "screed" installment by one percentage point "X"; the law (depending on whether the contract is based on VOB or the Civil Code) or a knowledgeable lawyer in construction law can provide advice on this.


What does your contract say? I am fairly sure that you will find a clause stating that possible house drying is at your expense?


How is the construction period contractually agreed upon and how long – until today – has it been exceeded?

Kind regards
 

posterino

2012-06-17 12:31:03
  • #4
Hello construction expert,

a big thank you in advance.
Here are a few additions to the post...


 

Bauexperte

2012-06-17 21:48:59
  • #5
Hello Bernd,


Did he inspect your construction site or just answer a question? There are different types of screed with different drying times...


Understandable, but again the question: was the expert on your construction site and did he assess the condition of the construction project or did he "only" answer a question from you?



§ 634 Rights of the client in case of defects
If the work is defective, the client can, if the requirements of the following provisions are met and unless otherwise specified,





















1. demand subsequent performance under § 635,
2. remedy the defect themselves and demand compensation for necessary expenses under § 637,
3. withdraw from the contract under §§ 636, 323 and 326 (5) or reduce the remuneration under § 638 and
4. demand damages under §§ 636, 280, 281, 283 and 311a or compensation for futile expenses under § 284.



That’s what I thought.


Wow, back in the day, house construction took a good year; and for good reasons! Nowadays, 6 months (up to the foundation slab) is already very fast – if I think about all trades, drying times, and the small errors that inevitably happen.


At least for your own peace of mind, commission an external expert to inspect the construction project?


No, you should involve an expert at this point in time anyway, even if it “only” turns out that you don’t need to worry. You are – apparently – “a bit unsettled”; that alone should be reason enough for you.

And yes, wherever we used a construction dryer, there were no problems later. BUT that cannot be transferred and cannot be regarded as a blanket statement!

Kind regards
 

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