Lorenz-AKU
2019-06-17 12:23:04
- #1
Hello,
we built an Okal house before 2017 with a Tecalor 404 eco. This year, 2019, the first service by Tecalor (maintenance contract) was due in April. As chance would have it, our heating system repeatedly reported faults with the refrigerant about 2 weeks before the maintenance appointment.
When the Tecalor technician was here at the end of April, he found damage to the heating system caused by ammonia flowing back from the duct. (Statement from the Tecalor employee). This ammonia got into the house connection room through dried-out funnel traps and a missing trap and attacked the copper pipes and motors.
After a few weeks, when we inquired at Tecalor about when the repair would take place, we received an email from Tecalor stating that a repair was not possible and therefore a paid full replacement of the heat pump was necessary.
We passed this on to DFH and after a few weeks, as we are unfortunately used to from DFH (Okal), we got the answer that the system broke down due to our own fault because we had failed to regularly fill the funnel traps with water (this was not mentioned to us at the house handover). The missing trap was not addressed at all.
Now I would like to ask the users of this forum:
Has anyone had similar experiences with their heating system?
Which of you homeowners have to regularly fill the funnel traps in the HAR so that your heating system does not break?
On the other hand, I would be interested to know if anyone can tell me whether this system was connected correctly at all?
A funnel trap was connected to the expansion tank, a funnel trap under an Optiline filling valve, but the condensate drain of the Tecalor heat pump was connected directly to the sewage line without a trap.
In my opinion as a layman, I would say that a trap directly on the floor above the floor inlet of the sewage line would have sufficed, and that this should have been filled with water from both the expansion tank, the Optiline filling valve, and the condensate drain of the heating system.
I am also attaching a few photos of the installation by the company Fehl und Sohn (subcontractors of DFH).
I am grateful for your opinions on this topic and hope they will help us decide how to proceed.
Since the heating no longer heats, it probably will not be warm in our house from September. And for reasons of securing evidence, I cannot and may not change anything about the current installation.
However, I am not willing to have a new heat pump installed at our own expense, which will cost about 25,000 euros.






we built an Okal house before 2017 with a Tecalor 404 eco. This year, 2019, the first service by Tecalor (maintenance contract) was due in April. As chance would have it, our heating system repeatedly reported faults with the refrigerant about 2 weeks before the maintenance appointment.
When the Tecalor technician was here at the end of April, he found damage to the heating system caused by ammonia flowing back from the duct. (Statement from the Tecalor employee). This ammonia got into the house connection room through dried-out funnel traps and a missing trap and attacked the copper pipes and motors.
After a few weeks, when we inquired at Tecalor about when the repair would take place, we received an email from Tecalor stating that a repair was not possible and therefore a paid full replacement of the heat pump was necessary.
We passed this on to DFH and after a few weeks, as we are unfortunately used to from DFH (Okal), we got the answer that the system broke down due to our own fault because we had failed to regularly fill the funnel traps with water (this was not mentioned to us at the house handover). The missing trap was not addressed at all.
Now I would like to ask the users of this forum:
Has anyone had similar experiences with their heating system?
Which of you homeowners have to regularly fill the funnel traps in the HAR so that your heating system does not break?
On the other hand, I would be interested to know if anyone can tell me whether this system was connected correctly at all?
A funnel trap was connected to the expansion tank, a funnel trap under an Optiline filling valve, but the condensate drain of the Tecalor heat pump was connected directly to the sewage line without a trap.
In my opinion as a layman, I would say that a trap directly on the floor above the floor inlet of the sewage line would have sufficed, and that this should have been filled with water from both the expansion tank, the Optiline filling valve, and the condensate drain of the heating system.
I am also attaching a few photos of the installation by the company Fehl und Sohn (subcontractors of DFH).
I am grateful for your opinions on this topic and hope they will help us decide how to proceed.
Since the heating no longer heats, it probably will not be warm in our house from September. And for reasons of securing evidence, I cannot and may not change anything about the current installation.
However, I am not willing to have a new heat pump installed at our own expense, which will cost about 25,000 euros.