ToBu1991
2023-10-01 14:51:05
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Hello dear forum members,
I am currently working with the company Lehner Haus from Heidenheim to realize my prefabricated house in timber frame construction. During the plan discussion, the topic came up as to which air-to-water heat pump should be used. I tried to educate myself a bit beforehand. Nevertheless, I would be happy to hear your opinion on this.
First about the construction itself. A Efficiency House 55 with approximately 200 sqm living space is planned. Attached are the plans as well. Underfloor heating is planned for all rooms except the pantry and technical room. Four people will move in. Usage behavior I would describe now as normal or average. Currently, there is no one who stands in the shower for 30 minutes. The bathtub is currently used about every 2 weeks. Of course, this may change when my children are older. Temperature-wise we are rather cool in the bedroom. Living room etc. around 20-21°C. Bathroom of course somewhat warmer but at least in the upstairs bathroom there will be a towel radiator.
Lehner Haus offers 2 providers for the heat pump: Vaillant and Viessmann Currently included in the price is a Vaillant Arotherm Split 105/5 AS, a 300-liter domestic hot water buffer tank and a compact buffer tank VWZ MPS40. A complete heat load calculation is not yet available. However, a rough preliminary estimate by the company showed that the heating system is oversized and rather a 75/5 AS or 85/5 AS should be sufficient. They also recommended here to switch from the aroTherm Split to an aroTherm Plus. Lehner Haus currently recommends a Vaillant aroTherm Plus 75/6 A S2.
Here I am unsure whether this is sufficient and also ask myself why originally a significantly larger heat pump was offered. In various posts on the Internet you read that the heat pumps were planned too small and therefore now operate inefficiently because they have to be run too "hard". But you also read the same statements the other way around that the heat pump should not be planned too large. Also, as a layman it is difficult for me to compare which heat pump is better (Split or Plus). As far as I understand, the Plus is more efficient and quieter. But is it worth the extra cost? And are there possibly comparable cheaper pumps or equally priced better ones from Viessmann? In the current issue of Stiftung Warentest Viessmann also won. Of course, only Lehner Haus can tell me my final price. Removing the heat pump from the scope of Leistung from Lehner Haus is unfortunately not an option for me because then I would also have to remove both the underfloor heating and the entire sanitary installation (apparently the same team).
Can you possibly help me here and give recommendations on what the right choice is? I have to make the final decision at the beginning of November.
Many thanks Best regards ToBu1991
I am currently working with the company Lehner Haus from Heidenheim to realize my prefabricated house in timber frame construction. During the plan discussion, the topic came up as to which air-to-water heat pump should be used. I tried to educate myself a bit beforehand. Nevertheless, I would be happy to hear your opinion on this.
First about the construction itself. A Efficiency House 55 with approximately 200 sqm living space is planned. Attached are the plans as well. Underfloor heating is planned for all rooms except the pantry and technical room. Four people will move in. Usage behavior I would describe now as normal or average. Currently, there is no one who stands in the shower for 30 minutes. The bathtub is currently used about every 2 weeks. Of course, this may change when my children are older. Temperature-wise we are rather cool in the bedroom. Living room etc. around 20-21°C. Bathroom of course somewhat warmer but at least in the upstairs bathroom there will be a towel radiator.
Lehner Haus offers 2 providers for the heat pump: Vaillant and Viessmann Currently included in the price is a Vaillant Arotherm Split 105/5 AS, a 300-liter domestic hot water buffer tank and a compact buffer tank VWZ MPS40. A complete heat load calculation is not yet available. However, a rough preliminary estimate by the company showed that the heating system is oversized and rather a 75/5 AS or 85/5 AS should be sufficient. They also recommended here to switch from the aroTherm Split to an aroTherm Plus. Lehner Haus currently recommends a Vaillant aroTherm Plus 75/6 A S2.
Here I am unsure whether this is sufficient and also ask myself why originally a significantly larger heat pump was offered. In various posts on the Internet you read that the heat pumps were planned too small and therefore now operate inefficiently because they have to be run too "hard". But you also read the same statements the other way around that the heat pump should not be planned too large. Also, as a layman it is difficult for me to compare which heat pump is better (Split or Plus). As far as I understand, the Plus is more efficient and quieter. But is it worth the extra cost? And are there possibly comparable cheaper pumps or equally priced better ones from Viessmann? In the current issue of Stiftung Warentest Viessmann also won. Of course, only Lehner Haus can tell me my final price. Removing the heat pump from the scope of Leistung from Lehner Haus is unfortunately not an option for me because then I would also have to remove both the underfloor heating and the entire sanitary installation (apparently the same team).
Can you possibly help me here and give recommendations on what the right choice is? I have to make the final decision at the beginning of November.
Many thanks Best regards ToBu1991