patrick_01
2021-01-03 13:11:22
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Hello everyone! Basically, it is about a two-family house, but the second residential unit should be on the ground floor with about 75 sqm.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: Outer area with 45m*45m (2025 sqm)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: -
Gross floor area ratio: -
Building window, building line and boundary: -
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: -
Number of floors: -
Roof shape: -
Style: -
Orientation: House is freely rotatable, currently the entrances face north/northwest
Maximum heights/limits: -
(little restrictions due to outer area)
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type: Rectangular floor plan with simple gable roof and waiving of gable/dormer etc. for economic reasons, style plain country house, KFW 55
Basement, floors: No basement for economic reasons, 1.5 floors
Number of people, age: 4 (30, 30, 60, 60 + max 2 children)
Room requirements on ground floor, upper floor: Ground floor secondary apartment completely on one level with ~75 sqm living space; other residential unit ground floor + upper floor at least 150 sqm living space, somewhat more desirable
Office: Home office for 2 persons
Overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture: Tendency to open
Conservative or modern construction: Tendency to conservative, country house style
Open kitchen, cooking island: Open kitchen, cooking island optional but not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Would be very desirable, chimney usable for both parties if possible (therefore living rooms adjacent). However, not built-in but initially only the chimney, to which a freestanding wood stove can then be retrofitted.
Music/stereo wall: -
Balcony, roof terrace: Roof terrace quite an option, since there is little space on the ground floor (just under 62 sqm) and a lot upstairs (just under 113 sqm). The idea would be: enlarge the floor plan (e.g. by 2m) and then create a roof terrace on top.
Garage, carport: Waiver for economic reasons
Utility garden, greenhouse: -
In the attached plan the current idea is to remove the pantry and simply add it to the kitchen, also give about 1 sqm from the bathroom to the kitchen. This will shift the kitchen a bit further to the back and it will no longer protrude so much into the living/dining area (and then there will be an additional door from the hallway to the kitchen). However, we still find the almost 62 sqm downstairs somewhat small, so we are considering at least 10.99 x 17.11 in favor of our WE1. But that makes the problem worse that we get even bigger upstairs (we already think it is too big now). Therefore also the consideration of the roof terrace.
What we like:
Dining/living area + kitchen in an open L-shape.
Shower in the ground floor bathroom (outdoor area: you often enter the house dirty)
Small storage room for beverage crates and similar
Extra "corner" as a wardrobe area where you can immediately get rid of dirty stuff.
Deliberately two separate entrances (so it is not really a classic secondary apartment), absolutely must be like this.
We are not yet satisfied with the upper floor. The utility/technical room must be upstairs. Also a second larger storage room. Also a spacious, walk-in dressing room is mandatory. However, it should be one double office, no two rooms. Office 1/2 could then become a "hobby room."
House design
Who created the plan: Preliminary draft by architect
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump (LWW)
If you have to do without, on which details/extensions
-cannot be done without: Secondary apartment (WE2) 75 sqm on one level. Shower in the ground floor bathroom. "Wardrobe corner." Two separate entrances.
Otherwise we are still quite open, especially regarding the allocation upstairs.
Why did the design turn out the way it is now? For example
Preliminary draft architect after discussion
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The fundamental questions are:
1) If we enlarge the ground floor and plan part of the upper floor as a (simple) roof terrace, is that economically sensible? Or is it cheaper to simply convert? That is: Does the saving upstairs through the roof terrace compensate the additional sqm downstairs?
2) How would you solve the problem that downstairs in WE1 there is rather too little space and upstairs rather too much? WE2 must necessarily be on one level at about 75 sqm and a basement is not an option. The floor plan should also remain as rectangular as possible for economic reasons.
3) A glass extension to create space on the ground floor would also be conceivable. But expanding the floor plan is probably more economical than creating 15 sqm by a glass extension e.g. in the dining area, right? The glass extension should be fully insulated if anything, that will really cost.
4) How do you estimate the construction costs? :)
Additional: The design of WE2 can be accepted as is for now.
Thank you very much in advance...

Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: Outer area with 45m*45m (2025 sqm)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: -
Gross floor area ratio: -
Building window, building line and boundary: -
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: -
Number of floors: -
Roof shape: -
Style: -
Orientation: House is freely rotatable, currently the entrances face north/northwest
Maximum heights/limits: -
(little restrictions due to outer area)
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type: Rectangular floor plan with simple gable roof and waiving of gable/dormer etc. for economic reasons, style plain country house, KFW 55
Basement, floors: No basement for economic reasons, 1.5 floors
Number of people, age: 4 (30, 30, 60, 60 + max 2 children)
Room requirements on ground floor, upper floor: Ground floor secondary apartment completely on one level with ~75 sqm living space; other residential unit ground floor + upper floor at least 150 sqm living space, somewhat more desirable
Office: Home office for 2 persons
Overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture: Tendency to open
Conservative or modern construction: Tendency to conservative, country house style
Open kitchen, cooking island: Open kitchen, cooking island optional but not mandatory
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: Would be very desirable, chimney usable for both parties if possible (therefore living rooms adjacent). However, not built-in but initially only the chimney, to which a freestanding wood stove can then be retrofitted.
Music/stereo wall: -
Balcony, roof terrace: Roof terrace quite an option, since there is little space on the ground floor (just under 62 sqm) and a lot upstairs (just under 113 sqm). The idea would be: enlarge the floor plan (e.g. by 2m) and then create a roof terrace on top.
Garage, carport: Waiver for economic reasons
Utility garden, greenhouse: -
In the attached plan the current idea is to remove the pantry and simply add it to the kitchen, also give about 1 sqm from the bathroom to the kitchen. This will shift the kitchen a bit further to the back and it will no longer protrude so much into the living/dining area (and then there will be an additional door from the hallway to the kitchen). However, we still find the almost 62 sqm downstairs somewhat small, so we are considering at least 10.99 x 17.11 in favor of our WE1. But that makes the problem worse that we get even bigger upstairs (we already think it is too big now). Therefore also the consideration of the roof terrace.
What we like:
Dining/living area + kitchen in an open L-shape.
Shower in the ground floor bathroom (outdoor area: you often enter the house dirty)
Small storage room for beverage crates and similar
Extra "corner" as a wardrobe area where you can immediately get rid of dirty stuff.
Deliberately two separate entrances (so it is not really a classic secondary apartment), absolutely must be like this.
We are not yet satisfied with the upper floor. The utility/technical room must be upstairs. Also a second larger storage room. Also a spacious, walk-in dressing room is mandatory. However, it should be one double office, no two rooms. Office 1/2 could then become a "hobby room."
House design
Who created the plan: Preliminary draft by architect
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump (LWW)
If you have to do without, on which details/extensions
-cannot be done without: Secondary apartment (WE2) 75 sqm on one level. Shower in the ground floor bathroom. "Wardrobe corner." Two separate entrances.
Otherwise we are still quite open, especially regarding the allocation upstairs.
Why did the design turn out the way it is now? For example
Preliminary draft architect after discussion
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The fundamental questions are:
1) If we enlarge the ground floor and plan part of the upper floor as a (simple) roof terrace, is that economically sensible? Or is it cheaper to simply convert? That is: Does the saving upstairs through the roof terrace compensate the additional sqm downstairs?
2) How would you solve the problem that downstairs in WE1 there is rather too little space and upstairs rather too much? WE2 must necessarily be on one level at about 75 sqm and a basement is not an option. The floor plan should also remain as rectangular as possible for economic reasons.
3) A glass extension to create space on the ground floor would also be conceivable. But expanding the floor plan is probably more economical than creating 15 sqm by a glass extension e.g. in the dining area, right? The glass extension should be fully insulated if anything, that will really cost.
4) How do you estimate the construction costs? :)
Additional: The design of WE2 can be accepted as is for now.
Thank you very much in advance...