Fixing wall purlin of terrace roof to house wall

  • Erstellt am 2024-10-29 23:15:09

bra-tak

2024-10-29 23:15:09
  • #1
Hi!

I am about to build my terrace roof. I am still undecided about how to fasten my 8x20 wall beam to the house wall.

About the house wall:
- 17.5cm aerated concrete
- 16.0cm insulation
- 4.00cm air gap
- 11.5cm facing brick

However, it will not be fastened in the aerated concrete, but directly above the 6.5m terrace window (and the exterior roller shutter housing) in the lintel. Since the building documents (we only bought the house, did not build it) do not specify the material of the lintel, I do not know whether I am fastening the terrace roof into concrete, aerated concrete, or something else. The house is from 2012, and there were already alternatives to reinforced concrete lintels at that time.

For this reason, I tend to go for the "classic" fastening: M16 threaded rod, 530mm long, made of A4 stainless steel, fixed with Fischer FIS VL 300 T injection mortar. Along with this, a 40cm long metal mesh sleeve.

First question: This would be the standard solution for aerated concrete. But is this also suitable if the lintel is made of concrete?

As a second option, I am considering bolt anchors of the same length. I would then skip the injection mortar. However, I seem to remember that these bolt anchors are not approved for aerated concrete. So if the lintel is, contrary to expectations, not made of concrete, I would be in trouble.

Second question: Is my memory mistaken, or is this correct?

Third question: Can you think of any alternative fastening methods?

Fourth question: Is the injection mortar I mentioned above the right one? There are so many variants; maybe someone here is familiar with it.

Best regards
 

Simon-189

2024-10-30 07:44:01
  • #2


That already gives a proud 31.5cm as a non-load-bearing layer, meaning the M16 threaded rod has to hold everything against bending. If you don't want to glue in a threaded rod every 40cm, I would rather tend towards M24.



Adhesive anchors can also be used in concrete. However, the mesh sleeve is actually only needed in the area of the bricks, air gap, and insulation.



To my knowledge, there are no expansion anchors or concrete screws in this length from either Hilti or Fischer.



The only thing I can think of would be to install the patio roof completely separated from the building, i.e., with wooden posts in front of the facade.



According to the homepage and approval, at least aerated concrete is listed as a substrate.
 

bra-tak

2024-10-30 09:35:19
  • #3
Thank you. That already gives me a lot of clues!
 

bra-tak

2024-10-30 09:58:13
  • #4
Here I have to intervene again: If I also have a sieve sleeve and injection mortar in the area of the clinker, the threaded rod also rests on the facing shell there. It therefore transfers transverse forces into the clinker wall, which in my opinion is unproblematic. Only compressive and tensile forces must be avoided in facing shells. If my line of thought is correct, then there would still be 20 cm of free thread length between the clinker and the masonry, but the bending load would be greatly reduced by the additional support.
 

nordanney

2024-10-30 10:01:10
  • #5
Just do a test drill, then you will know for sure whether it is concrete or aerated concrete. Afterwards, you can consider the fastening options.
 

Buchsbaum066

2024-10-30 10:34:12
  • #6
That's how I would do it too. In theory, the vertical supports could also be embedded into the insulation.
 

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