Kaldron
2021-03-30 15:47:23
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Newly registered and straight to the essential question :cool: Can/should we actually afford this?
Framework conditions:
Property:
Financing:
550k financing amount over 15 years fixed interest at 1.05%, repayment approx. 2.9%, rate 1,750€, remaining debt 300k
I’m aware that this is quite substantial, but in Berlin in this location (necessary due to foreseeable job changes within the authority across Berlin) there are simply no other/cheaper properties currently. Alternative would be renting, but rents for an apartment of comparable size are currently also between 1700-2100 cold. Condos are mostly attic apartments without elevator, often hurriedly converted to use every last square meter. The house would be basically move-in ready without actually having to do anything and except for exceptional things, nothing is expected in the next 5-10 years.
Personal calculation:
500 € tax refund (could theoretically also go to LSK 3, then I would have it monthly in my pocket, but I would see it as a "mandatory" savings rate for maintenance/upkeep for house/car/household appliances
4.5k + 420 child benefit = 4.9k
4.9k - 1.75k installment - 400 incidental costs - 200 health insurance - 200 life insurance = 2.35k
So 2.3k for daily living, car running costs, Netflix etc. Should actually be enough.
The idea was not necessarily to pay off the house completely. It is a way to avoid the extreme rents at the moment. In 15 years there would still be a 300k remaining debt. However, we would also still have the 100k from the life insurances and the youngest child would then be in their early 20s and thus practically out of the house. Depending on the situation, we could either continue paying off or sell and look for a retirement home. Assuming the house retains its value after a real estate bubble burst and inflation, it would still be a decent value for a small condo or actually rent depending on location, depending on how the market is, and without children you are more flexible then.
Long story short... is this well thought out or just a financial suicide mission? Thanks for your assessments!
PS: This here is my worst-case scenario. If my wife finds a part-time or full-time position quickly, even with just 1k net, then of course it looks more relaxed. My increases due to salary negotiations and experience levels are not included, but would rather go into compensating inflation of the cost of living.
Framework conditions:
[*]Me (44), civil servant, 4.5k net (LSK 4) about 650 more after annual adjustment
[*]Partner (42) currently without equity
[*]Children: 2 (elementary school age), child benefit (420€) and definitely no more
[*]Equity: usable 150k€, 30k in reserve, but intended for a necessary replacement of the 2nd car (small/lower mid-class for daily commuting) and possible minor adjustments
[*]2 capital life insurances, currently with 40k surrender value (200€/month) and tax-free payout of about 110k in 15 years conservatively
[*]House incidental costs calculated with 4€/sqm
[*]other special monthly expenses: health insurance approx. 200€
[*]work-related move to Berlin from "further away"
Property:
[*]Terraced mid-house approx. 1970, solid construction
[*]Location: Berlin
[*]Price: 645,000
[*]Purchase incidental costs: 50k (no broker)
[*]4 rooms 100sqm + approx. 15sqm heated study in the basement
[*]recently modernized: sanitary, heating, electricity, garden and freshly painted as well
Financing:
550k financing amount over 15 years fixed interest at 1.05%, repayment approx. 2.9%, rate 1,750€, remaining debt 300k
I’m aware that this is quite substantial, but in Berlin in this location (necessary due to foreseeable job changes within the authority across Berlin) there are simply no other/cheaper properties currently. Alternative would be renting, but rents for an apartment of comparable size are currently also between 1700-2100 cold. Condos are mostly attic apartments without elevator, often hurriedly converted to use every last square meter. The house would be basically move-in ready without actually having to do anything and except for exceptional things, nothing is expected in the next 5-10 years.
Personal calculation:
500 € tax refund (could theoretically also go to LSK 3, then I would have it monthly in my pocket, but I would see it as a "mandatory" savings rate for maintenance/upkeep for house/car/household appliances
4.5k + 420 child benefit = 4.9k
4.9k - 1.75k installment - 400 incidental costs - 200 health insurance - 200 life insurance = 2.35k
So 2.3k for daily living, car running costs, Netflix etc. Should actually be enough.
The idea was not necessarily to pay off the house completely. It is a way to avoid the extreme rents at the moment. In 15 years there would still be a 300k remaining debt. However, we would also still have the 100k from the life insurances and the youngest child would then be in their early 20s and thus practically out of the house. Depending on the situation, we could either continue paying off or sell and look for a retirement home. Assuming the house retains its value after a real estate bubble burst and inflation, it would still be a decent value for a small condo or actually rent depending on location, depending on how the market is, and without children you are more flexible then.
Long story short... is this well thought out or just a financial suicide mission? Thanks for your assessments!
PS: This here is my worst-case scenario. If my wife finds a part-time or full-time position quickly, even with just 1k net, then of course it looks more relaxed. My increases due to salary negotiations and experience levels are not included, but would rather go into compensating inflation of the cost of living.