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2020-12-16 20:52:33
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Hi,
we are currently working on the first detailed financing plan for a house.
This also has to take into account an apartment that I already own and that is to be rented out in the future.
Now, I am struggling with the taxes on this topic. I don’t need it to be exact to the Euro here at first, but maybe someone of you knows better how the calculation works and can correct me.
The apartment is in a house that is already over 50 years old. Furthermore, the apartment was transferred to me 6 years ago, and I pay a compensation to the transferors of 3600€ annually.
I have also taken out a loan of 50,000€ for the apartment, which was used for renovation purposes and has not yet been fully repaid.
The annual interest on the loan I assume as an example to be 600€.
Further as an example, the apartment can/should be rented out cold for 12,000€ per year.
Now to the calculation
in the worst case:
My income without renting = 60,000€ gross per year -> for this (tax class 1 no children) 12,525.84€ tax is due
with renting = 72,000€ -> for this (tax class 1 no children) 17,313.48€ tax is due.
That means for the renting I pay a hefty 4,787.64€ in taxes, after all almost 5 monthly rents.
with depreciation:
Here I am not sure. There is no purchase price, so there is nothing to deduct?
Can the compensation payment to the transferors still be deducted, fully or with the 2% rule?
For example, I would leave a kitchen in it, can I still deduct it with 2% over the next 4 years?
I can deduct the annual loan interest
I can also deduct property tax
Additional costs can be deducted, in full?
-> The thing with the additional costs confused me a bit. It is always said that it is taxed on cold rent, but somehow not… Is the calculation here such that you first calculate with additional costs and then the additional costs are fully deducted again? Then it would cancel out.
Ultimately I arrive at
Cold rent income per year: 12,000€
- Compensation payment: x
- Kitchen with 2% (12,000 purchase price / 10 years / 100 * 2): 24€
- Loan interest: 600€
- Property tax: 60€
- Additional costs: x
to be taxed: 11,316€
Am I on the right track like this?
Can I generally assume that without depreciation or without purchase price/investment I cannot claim any significant deductions and have to pay about 5 monthly rents in taxes?
we are currently working on the first detailed financing plan for a house.
This also has to take into account an apartment that I already own and that is to be rented out in the future.
Now, I am struggling with the taxes on this topic. I don’t need it to be exact to the Euro here at first, but maybe someone of you knows better how the calculation works and can correct me.
The apartment is in a house that is already over 50 years old. Furthermore, the apartment was transferred to me 6 years ago, and I pay a compensation to the transferors of 3600€ annually.
I have also taken out a loan of 50,000€ for the apartment, which was used for renovation purposes and has not yet been fully repaid.
The annual interest on the loan I assume as an example to be 600€.
Further as an example, the apartment can/should be rented out cold for 12,000€ per year.
Now to the calculation
in the worst case:
My income without renting = 60,000€ gross per year -> for this (tax class 1 no children) 12,525.84€ tax is due
with renting = 72,000€ -> for this (tax class 1 no children) 17,313.48€ tax is due.
That means for the renting I pay a hefty 4,787.64€ in taxes, after all almost 5 monthly rents.
with depreciation:
Here I am not sure. There is no purchase price, so there is nothing to deduct?
Can the compensation payment to the transferors still be deducted, fully or with the 2% rule?
For example, I would leave a kitchen in it, can I still deduct it with 2% over the next 4 years?
I can deduct the annual loan interest
I can also deduct property tax
Additional costs can be deducted, in full?
-> The thing with the additional costs confused me a bit. It is always said that it is taxed on cold rent, but somehow not… Is the calculation here such that you first calculate with additional costs and then the additional costs are fully deducted again? Then it would cancel out.
Ultimately I arrive at
Cold rent income per year: 12,000€
- Compensation payment: x
- Kitchen with 2% (12,000 purchase price / 10 years / 100 * 2): 24€
- Loan interest: 600€
- Property tax: 60€
- Additional costs: x
to be taxed: 11,316€
Am I on the right track like this?
Can I generally assume that without depreciation or without purchase price/investment I cannot claim any significant deductions and have to pay about 5 monthly rents in taxes?