Construction financing - Influence of private retirement provision on interest rate

  • Erstellt am 2019-12-17 10:07:06

Dan1987

2019-12-17 10:07:06
  • #1
Hello everyone,

I have been reading passively here for some time and am now happy to finally be able to take advantage of the advice of the well-informed people myself.

First of all, about my current situation:
- pregnant girlfriend (civil servant) and me (employee) and both "well" earning planning to purchase a property in the next 1 - 2 years
- equity is available in an amount that can cover the ancillary purchase costs, the rest of the loan needs to be financed
- in addition to purchasing the property, I would like to save a small amount monthly for retirement provision

I am certainly no expert in the field of investment, but I have already read up quite well on the basics. Therefore, I never wanted to conclude funds because of the high costs and instead invest in cheaper options (especially ETFs).

In the course of acquiring the property, I am currently organizing my finances and came across a clever (independent) financial advisor from a business consulting firm who proposed the following scenario:
He recommended the product "Generation private plus" from Canada Life. This is a unit-linked pension insurance – the costs are accordingly high. €4,500 acquisition and distribution costs, monthly administrative costs of €5.43, and €274 fixed costs in the first 10 years. To make the product attractive to me, he now told me that the product is of course expensive, but it has a very important advantage: private retirement provision would have a significant impact on the approved loan interest rate for construction financing at a bank (0.1 - 0.2 percentage points). Through private retirement provision, I would give the bank more security. Since the financial advisor can also negotiate the conditions with banks for me when purchasing a property, this would accordingly reduce my interest rate. That means I would deliberately accept the high costs of Canada Life in this case in order to get a cheap construction loan in return. Thus, it would ultimately have a positive effect on me again.

As already described, a unit-linked pension insurance was never an option because of the high costs, but the described scenario at least makes me suspicious. In my research, I could not find any meaningful evidence anywhere for his thesis. Is such a scenario realistic? Am I being taken for a ride here?

If I have forgotten any important information, please let me know! I look forward to your feedback!
 

Evolith

2019-12-17 10:15:52
  • #2
I was never even asked about something like that at the bank. They were only interested in what I pay NOW. Since I would have paid off the house by retirement age anyway, it was irrelevant. Personally, I would stay away from that. Otherwise, you end up with an expensive pension insurance but no loan. The devil is a squirrel.
 

nordanney

2019-12-17 10:15:52
  • #3
I can make my answer significantly shorter than yours: Yes, what is being "sold" to you is complete nonsense. Not the product - I can't assess that - but the claim that the interest rate will improve.
 

HilfeHilfe

2019-12-17 10:37:56
  • #4


You are not being advised here but "betrayed."

Complete nonsense trying to sell you an overpriced product. Your private retirement provision has zero influence on the interest rate.
 

Dan1987

2019-12-17 10:52:03
  • #5
Thank you for your assessments. I really find it shocking that I was apparently deliberately given incorrect advice here. I will ask the advisor to provide me with concrete evidence for his thesis.
 

Grundaus

2019-12-17 11:28:13
  • #6
If you invest credit balances anywhere, whether in insurance policies or (building) savings contracts, and pledge them in real estate financing, the interest rate is reduced. Especially if it is 100% financing, which you do for rental apartments for the tax office. However, in 1-2 years, you will not accumulate any credit balance in this expensive pension insurance but will have a surrender value of 0. Besides, you confuse the terms pension insurance, unit-linked, active and passive funds, and everything else there is. And what does the F in ETF stand for?
 

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