Chimney inside or outside?

  • Erstellt am 2016-11-14 11:49:04

Alex85

2016-11-17 15:56:34
  • #1
Small mistake on my part, I mixed in heat carriers even though it was only about the electricity mix. The correct information is that renewable energies have a share of 29% in the electricity mix, of which 39% is in photovoltaics, so 6% of the electricity mix. Data for 2015.
 

Bauexperte

2016-11-18 13:12:17
  • #2
Hello Andreas,


Not literally.

Only with this you point your finger at WP users: "And then merrily burn electricity from environmentally friendly lignite or the equally environmentally friendly nuclear power from France..." It is unwise to throw stones since you yourself live in a glass house ;)

Rhenish greetings
 

AOLNCM

2016-11-18 15:36:42
  • #3
Electricity is a sensitive topic. Whether it comes from a lignite or nuclear power plant, or is generated by solar, wind, or hydropower plants, we cannot directly influence it.

- Wind energy complains, the northern German electricity does not reach the metropolitan areas.
- The German solar inverter manufacturer lays off staff and complains that subsidies are being abolished.
- Nuclear power producers complain that politics cannot simply shut down power plants.
- Lignite fights with political means and must keep the lobbyists in the ministry happy.
- Hydropower plant operators complain that because of renewable energies they only operate with poor efficiency when ramping up and down, and that the turbine characteristic maps are not designed for this.
- Consumers grumble that the green energy transition is quite expensive.

To retain the regenerative core competence in the country, wind priority areas are sought away from the seas and solar systems are favorably calculated in northern regions.
So that the power grid does not collapse, a coal power plant is being built in Greece with "support from the German government" for wind and sun.

If one wants to become independent from an Eastern European neighbor (in terms of energy supply) and not allow the country to become stronger with foreign currency, electricity must become green.
 

Knallkörper

2016-11-21 01:04:26
  • #4


I think you can also calculate and talk "nuclear power" green. I would be in favor of that. It's a pity that we already sacrificed our technological leadership in this field to the Greens many years ago.
 

Payday

2016-11-22 12:32:54
  • #5
that is highly rounded up and fabricated. the tricks are so brazen that politicians should actually be behind bars. your great green electricity is purchased electricity from Norwegian waterfalls. our coal/nuclear power is then sold to Norway. since the electricity never takes the route through half of Europe back and forth, you get nuclear/coal power from the socket here. basically, electricity is bought and sold as a unit. with wind, heat, or sun you can't cover a sensible grid. i would be in favor of the green electricity meter. every time the grid doesn't get enough electricity from wind or sun, EVERYTHING goes off for people with green electricity. (technically unfortunately not so easy to implement). defects due to power fluctuations are also paid for by the green energy users, as well as consequential damages from frozen houses in winter when there is no wind and the sun simply doesn't show. of course, people with green electricity are also not allowed to watch large events during windless periods (e.g. European Championship, etc.) because electricity consumption is particularly high then and can only be compensated by coal power plants. for this, they should also have the electricity at half price... instead of doing so much with green stuff, one should rather find a solution with which electricity can be stored properly. currently green electricity is generated to partially convert the electricity back into kinetic energy with sometimes ridiculous efficiencies, only to convert it back into electricity later with an even poorer efficiency. one example is water reservoirs with a turbine in front. the water is pumped up into the reservoir with green electricity to then let the turbine generate electricity again from the water when needed. the efficiency of the whole is decent, but still energy destruction.
 
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