pobeam
2012-02-14 10:41:49
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Hello everyone!
I would appreciate some opinions regarding houses from the 1960s.
We have the following "problem":
We have found a house that we like quite well overall (appearance, room layout) except for a few minor details, meaning we would have to make very few compromises compared to our ideas. The house also has a great location (edge of a 3,000-inhabitant village, south side cannot be built on with a wonderful view), and the neighbors are known and okay.
It is an L-shaped bungalow from 1967 with a 730 sqm plot, 160 sqm living space, and about the same again for the basement including an integrated garage. The house is well maintained and in good general condition (good substance).
The standard land value here is 80 euros/sqm.
Our main problem:
As is typical for a house from this period, nothing has been done in terms of thermal insulation.
Of course, we have now dealt with the topic of "energy-efficient renovation," but due to the flood of information, we are actually no smarter than before, especially since there are many critical voices regarding ETICS (no amortization, mold, moisture in the facade, later disposal, etc.).
Therefore, we now ask ourselves: is it still worthwhile to buy such a house at today's energy costs without deducting the total costs related to renovation (even if you might not carry them out) from the purchase price?
The negotiation basis for this property is apparently 210,000 euros, which seemed quite expensive to us from the start. However, we do assume that the final purchase price will be somewhat lower.
If you roughly estimate the renovation costs (possibly thermal insulation, new windows, doors, new bathroom, guest toilet, kitchen, flooring, heating), you quickly reach an amount of 100,000 euros, which together with the purchase price almost exceeds the cost of a new build.
If you forego major energy-related investments, the much higher energy costs compared to a new build will apply.
You also have to consider that perhaps the roof will need work in the medium term. (At the moment it still looks good (tiles)).
What are your thoughts/experiences in this context?
Is it more reasonable to build new? We could get a 600 sqm plot in about a year for around 60,000 euros. However, the location would not be as nice.
Thanks in advance for your contributions!
I would appreciate some opinions regarding houses from the 1960s.
We have the following "problem":
We have found a house that we like quite well overall (appearance, room layout) except for a few minor details, meaning we would have to make very few compromises compared to our ideas. The house also has a great location (edge of a 3,000-inhabitant village, south side cannot be built on with a wonderful view), and the neighbors are known and okay.
It is an L-shaped bungalow from 1967 with a 730 sqm plot, 160 sqm living space, and about the same again for the basement including an integrated garage. The house is well maintained and in good general condition (good substance).
The standard land value here is 80 euros/sqm.
Our main problem:
As is typical for a house from this period, nothing has been done in terms of thermal insulation.
Of course, we have now dealt with the topic of "energy-efficient renovation," but due to the flood of information, we are actually no smarter than before, especially since there are many critical voices regarding ETICS (no amortization, mold, moisture in the facade, later disposal, etc.).
Therefore, we now ask ourselves: is it still worthwhile to buy such a house at today's energy costs without deducting the total costs related to renovation (even if you might not carry them out) from the purchase price?
The negotiation basis for this property is apparently 210,000 euros, which seemed quite expensive to us from the start. However, we do assume that the final purchase price will be somewhat lower.
If you roughly estimate the renovation costs (possibly thermal insulation, new windows, doors, new bathroom, guest toilet, kitchen, flooring, heating), you quickly reach an amount of 100,000 euros, which together with the purchase price almost exceeds the cost of a new build.
If you forego major energy-related investments, the much higher energy costs compared to a new build will apply.
You also have to consider that perhaps the roof will need work in the medium term. (At the moment it still looks good (tiles)).
What are your thoughts/experiences in this context?
Is it more reasonable to build new? We could get a 600 sqm plot in about a year for around 60,000 euros. However, the location would not be as nice.
Thanks in advance for your contributions!