Basement the double garage to save money

  • Erstellt am 2017-11-22 23:45:51

Stagenberger

2017-11-22 23:45:51
  • #1
Had a conversation yesterday with a developer who said that I could do without the cellar under the house and instead build a small cellar under the double garage. The double garage could then have access to the house. He wants to provide a cost comparison later.

When I research the costs, the cellar under the garage costs between 20 and 30 thousand euros. If I then have the cellar under the house for 20 to 25 thousand euros more, I find that more sensible.

What do you think?
 

Gartenfreund

2017-11-23 06:32:52
  • #2
I also find it more sensible under the house.

Where should the stairs go then? Outside the garage or inside.

If inside, then you lose the parking space, exhaust fumes could get downstairs, and depending on what is stored there, that might not be good.

But no matter where the stairs are ultimately installed, to put it bluntly, to get something from this basement in winter you first have to put on your fur coat. Whether that's nice, however, is something you have to decide for yourself.
 

Stivikivi

2017-11-23 09:06:37
  • #3
I am currently also wondering if I really need a basement. The costs should not be underestimated here. However, if I were to choose, I would prefer the basement under the house as it is more sensible.
 

11ant

2017-11-23 14:55:24
  • #4
A basement under a double garage is area-wise equivalent to a partial basement under a house. That means the calculation is already burdened by the fact that the perimeter-to-area ratio of the partial basement (even if it ideally had a square base by itself) is always less favorable than that of a full basement. You can get a basement with half the volume for about two-thirds of the price.

In addition, the garage has the driveway side in front, which practically rules out light wells. Furthermore, vehicles are heavier than furniture, making the "basement ceiling" under a garage more expensive.

Nevertheless, I have also had the thought that it might not be entirely out of the question that the question is worthwhile – and I asked basement builders. There are several prefabricated basement builders who specifically offer mini basements (only a house connection and storage room) and could also manufacture them in the dimensions for under double carports. They told me unanimously that it is not worthwhile. They do sell these things very well where people, like in Stuttgart or Munich, want to save every square meter because of the exorbitant prices for building land and therefore avoid the basement alternative of the above-ground utility room (HAR) – but almost never in places where the pressure to save on floor area is not quite as extreme.

Even a utility room (HAR) behind a carport – that is, not sharing walls with the garage extension, but requiring all enclosing walls on its own – would be cheaper to construct (basically because it is above ground) than such a small basement.
 

Otus11

2017-11-23 15:13:02
  • #5


Does the garage directly adjoin the house? Then the same applies as with a partial cellar: In the case of a renovation, you will later no longer have access from above to at least one (1) cellar wall..... Because half or even a whole house hangs on the floor slab above it.

Is the house large? With 140 sqm of footprint, a full cellar will of course be more expensive than with a smaller house footprint.

And is it supposed to be a utility or (inhabitable) cellar under the garage, meaning cool or warm and dry?
 

Stagenberger

2017-11-23 21:45:29
  • #6
Why do I want a basement? I have often asked myself this question:

- I enjoyed having a basement in the house as a child, much additional space and storage area.
- All my friends and acquaintances say that they would never want to do without a basement, the storage possibility, the party basement, and/or the hobby basement.

In the end, I hope that with my house plans a basement with 40m2 of usable space will cost a maximum of 50,000 euros. That would be about 190 euros more loan payment per month. For that, the next car will just not be a BMW but a Japanese one...

I have almost given up on the plan with the garage basement after the research yesterday and today. Your feedback also made me decide to rather take a normal basement.
 

Similar topics
24.04.2018Massive double garage vs. prefab garage vs. carport46
13.01.2016Costs partial basement vs. full basement27
11.12.2015Question about floor plan, especially stairs13
02.05.2016Staircase floor plan design, tread and stringer21
12.07.2016Floor plan question, garage, stairs33
15.08.2016Technical room as small as possible - under the stairs?10
31.08.2016Estimate of construction costs for a single-family house with double garage and hipped roof51
09.01.2017Newly built city villa with a granny flat and double garage72
16.02.2017Straight staircase - why?14
06.03.2017Finishing staircase - parquet28
19.08.2017Construction costs in BW for a single-family house with a 200m2 basement and double garage38
05.10.2017Cost of a single-family house 180m2 with basement and double garage14
24.02.2018Construction costs of a single-family house with a basement and double garage29
16.12.2018Floor plan design single-family house (city villa 140 sqm) on a slope with double garage495
11.01.2019Floor plan design / draft single-family house flat roof with double garage87
22.08.2018How much can a double garage cost?23
11.11.2020Newly built single-family house with 2 full floors and a double garage, 150 sqm77
11.12.2019New double garage / workshop13
26.08.2020What gate size is required for a new double garage construction?10

Oben