Kermit
2014-11-04 13:32:31
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Here are some additional infos or tips as I am currently facing the problem, even though I measured the ceiling beforehand. Exemplary for the Pax 236cm height
The Pax or the sliding doors are offered with a max height of 236.4cm or 236cm respectively. In my case, I measured a room height of 238. What I didn’t consider is that with a tiled floor there can certainly be height differences during installation (even if only minimal), e.g. rising from right to left or a room ceiling hung with panels which is also not 100% straight. Unfortunately, both apply to me and I only measured at one spot. However, the corpus fits under the ceiling at every point.
Tip: before purchase (okay, probably not read here beforehand ) definitely measure the room height at several points.
The actual problem is not the corpus height but the sliding door (in my case UGGDAL) in the installed state or the parts necessary for it. To mount the sliding door on the corpus, an aluminum rail must be installed at the top and bottom. The lower rail has several cm of play downwards to the floor – thus space to adjust the plinth if necessary. With the upper rail, there is quite a bit to consider during installation!
- Corpus and sliding door come in separate packaging with separate assembly instructions that are not linked or connected – this is extremely important to know with low ceiling height.
- The corpus must be assembled standing with a ceiling height under 244cm (see instructions). For the sliding doors, plastic holders for the upper aluminum rail are additionally necessary. These must be placed (and screwed) onto predefined holes from above on the corpus. The insertion sleeve of these plastic holders is about 2cm long height of the plastic holder play for clipping in the aluminum rail. With a ceiling height of about 238cm = impossible.
Tip 1: When assembling the corpus, insert the necessary plastic holders for the upper aluminum rail of the sliding doors (found in the sliding doors’ packaging and only described there) into the corpus top panel before finally mounting the top panel. This is only necessary with room height under approx. 240cm.
Tip 2: The corpus (including plastic holders) may be standing but if there is no more space to clip in the aluminum rail, you can try to slide the aluminum rail in from the side (if there is space) or carefully tap it in with a hammer. For this, push the plastic holders upwards from the inside as far as the ceiling allows with a suitable tool.
The next problem is the upper fitting of the outer sliding door. This fitting protrudes (thanks to its design and securing) OVER the sliding door and thus beyond the corpus.
Tip 1: If there is not enough space above to hang the outer sliding door, you can slide the door in from the side (if there is space) and disassemble the stopper beforehand. Don’t forget the stopper after mounting!
Tip 2: If the outer sliding door rubs against the ceiling after final assembly (it is the door stopper), you can remove it by destruction (Warning! At your own risk). The stopper itself is made of plastic and can be easily pried off with a flat screwdriver. The remaining metal pin (on which the stopper runs) can be removed with a hacksaw. This gains another good 3-4mm. Removing the stopper is, in my opinion, only harmless if the room ceiling is so low that the door cannot be lifted off upwards after final installation. In other words: anyone who can install their sliding door according to instructions (from the front – not from the side) and it does NOT rub on the ceiling afterwards should definitely use the stopper.
Since the above tips do not help me and my sliding door still rubs, I either have to raise the lowered ceiling or shorten the height of the plinth. Special tools are needed for shortening the plinth. I haven’t done it yet and will probably try with my pull saw. It can be pulled a max of 30cm. This way I can hopefully manage the side parts if I saw from both sides. For the front and rear plinth strips (75cm long) that won’t work – I have to come up with something else.
Final tips:
- If you are not sure if everything fits, I recommend setting up the corpus initially without the Pax back panel. Due to instability, use as few nails as possible at first. This way you can try the upper aluminum rail and if everything fits, nail the Pax back panel firmly later. This makes disassembling the corpus easier if (like me) you still have to work on the plinth.
- When assembling the Pax with sliding door, always do without all the interior parts (drawers, rods, shelves, etc.) until the corpus and sliding doors are fully functional.
The Pax or the sliding doors are offered with a max height of 236.4cm or 236cm respectively. In my case, I measured a room height of 238. What I didn’t consider is that with a tiled floor there can certainly be height differences during installation (even if only minimal), e.g. rising from right to left or a room ceiling hung with panels which is also not 100% straight. Unfortunately, both apply to me and I only measured at one spot. However, the corpus fits under the ceiling at every point.
Tip: before purchase (okay, probably not read here beforehand ) definitely measure the room height at several points.
The actual problem is not the corpus height but the sliding door (in my case UGGDAL) in the installed state or the parts necessary for it. To mount the sliding door on the corpus, an aluminum rail must be installed at the top and bottom. The lower rail has several cm of play downwards to the floor – thus space to adjust the plinth if necessary. With the upper rail, there is quite a bit to consider during installation!
- Corpus and sliding door come in separate packaging with separate assembly instructions that are not linked or connected – this is extremely important to know with low ceiling height.
- The corpus must be assembled standing with a ceiling height under 244cm (see instructions). For the sliding doors, plastic holders for the upper aluminum rail are additionally necessary. These must be placed (and screwed) onto predefined holes from above on the corpus. The insertion sleeve of these plastic holders is about 2cm long height of the plastic holder play for clipping in the aluminum rail. With a ceiling height of about 238cm = impossible.
Tip 1: When assembling the corpus, insert the necessary plastic holders for the upper aluminum rail of the sliding doors (found in the sliding doors’ packaging and only described there) into the corpus top panel before finally mounting the top panel. This is only necessary with room height under approx. 240cm.
Tip 2: The corpus (including plastic holders) may be standing but if there is no more space to clip in the aluminum rail, you can try to slide the aluminum rail in from the side (if there is space) or carefully tap it in with a hammer. For this, push the plastic holders upwards from the inside as far as the ceiling allows with a suitable tool.
The next problem is the upper fitting of the outer sliding door. This fitting protrudes (thanks to its design and securing) OVER the sliding door and thus beyond the corpus.
Tip 1: If there is not enough space above to hang the outer sliding door, you can slide the door in from the side (if there is space) and disassemble the stopper beforehand. Don’t forget the stopper after mounting!
Tip 2: If the outer sliding door rubs against the ceiling after final assembly (it is the door stopper), you can remove it by destruction (Warning! At your own risk). The stopper itself is made of plastic and can be easily pried off with a flat screwdriver. The remaining metal pin (on which the stopper runs) can be removed with a hacksaw. This gains another good 3-4mm. Removing the stopper is, in my opinion, only harmless if the room ceiling is so low that the door cannot be lifted off upwards after final installation. In other words: anyone who can install their sliding door according to instructions (from the front – not from the side) and it does NOT rub on the ceiling afterwards should definitely use the stopper.
Since the above tips do not help me and my sliding door still rubs, I either have to raise the lowered ceiling or shorten the height of the plinth. Special tools are needed for shortening the plinth. I haven’t done it yet and will probably try with my pull saw. It can be pulled a max of 30cm. This way I can hopefully manage the side parts if I saw from both sides. For the front and rear plinth strips (75cm long) that won’t work – I have to come up with something else.
Final tips:
- If you are not sure if everything fits, I recommend setting up the corpus initially without the Pax back panel. Due to instability, use as few nails as possible at first. This way you can try the upper aluminum rail and if everything fits, nail the Pax back panel firmly later. This makes disassembling the corpus easier if (like me) you still have to work on the plinth.
- When assembling the Pax with sliding door, always do without all the interior parts (drawers, rods, shelves, etc.) until the corpus and sliding doors are fully functional.