Applicable Standards for Raised Floor Layers

  • Erstellt am 2022-06-29 06:50:24

Wolpertinger

2022-06-29 06:50:24
  • #1
Hello everyone!

Our screed layer insisted on quick payment and since it seemed suspicious to me, I measured. On average, the entire ground floor is 10 mm too low (two levels) and also a large basement room.
Biggest annoyance: The flush sliding door protrudes 10 mm above the finished floor later on.

Which tolerances / standards are used here?? Is this still within the acceptable range?

I am grateful for any help!

Regards

Andi
 

i_b_n_a_n

2022-06-29 23:56:43
  • #2
maybe the expert on the subject of floor can help you? You should better provide more info / details and possibly also pictures for clarification ...
 

KlaRa

2022-06-30 16:46:20
  • #3
Hello Andi.
First of all, it should be noted on this topic that the screed layer does not know exactly what is planned in any object.
Therefore, he receives height specifications from a scope of services with reference to the binding meter line. That exists in every new construction project!
For example, he (the screed layer) receives the specification -19 OKB, if later parquet, the adhesive, and a leveling compound (filler) are to be used. And this specification -19, as just an example, is binding for him.
The answer to your question is therefore:
A height leveling must be done on the screed surface, referring to the binding meter line!
The comparison of whether it was installed correctly or not is based on the tender.
After that, everything becomes clear.
Regards: KlaRa
 

Tolentino

2022-06-30 16:51:22
  • #4
Who is doing the finished floor? Not that they talked to each other, there is still some layer planned on the ground floor and you just don't know about it? So maybe that is how it is supposed to be? Actually, everyone insists on quick payment. If you even get a discount at all, that is already the exception.
 

Wolpertinger

2022-06-30 18:12:15
  • #5
His meter mark corresponds exactly with ours. And the height levels were communicated in writing. He did not adhere to his own meter mark. How much deviation, and according to which standard, is permissible for the height level?
 

KlaRa

2022-07-01 09:28:15
  • #6
"His height reference line matches ours exactly. And the elevation levels were communicated in writing. He did not adhere to his own height reference line.
How much deviation, and according to which standard, is permissible for the elevation level?"

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Well, DIN 18560 Part 1 Table 1 "Screed Thicknesses" provides information on this.
In the bill of quantities "Screed Works," a nominal screed thickness was specified. By the way, this is specified by the planner.
If we look at the aforementioned Table 1, we see, for example, a nominal thickness for unheated screeds (commonly used in residential construction) of 45mm.
The smallest individual value there is 40mm, so there is a difference of 5mm.
The minimum thickness primarily has to do with the load-bearing capacity of the load distribution layer, yet we can apply the basic principle to the problem in your house when it comes to minimum thicknesses (and thus the smallest installation thickness).
Added to the nominal thickness specification is the instruction (to the screed installer) regarding which height level must be maintained.
The minimum thickness of a screed is thus specified by DIN 18560-1, but there is no normative requirement concerning the maximum thickness.
This usually results only after leveling (task: screed installer), so that he can later invoice extra thicknesses/extra consumption.
The height specification given to the screed installer compared to the binding height reference line is ultimately decisive!
Suppose the screed was demonstrably installed too low. What happens next?
Well, a written defect notice is issued by the client to the contractor (here: screed installer) with a request for rectification within a period X.
The screed installer will usually first check whether there is indeed an incorrect height.
If it was installed too low, he will probably not want to carry out the necessary extra thickness himself but leave that to the following trade (floor layer) against cost reimbursement. The latter then takes over the leveling, which, depending on the height difference, does not necessarily have to be done over the entire surface. Usually, it is sufficient to adjust at component transitions (in this case from one room to the next).
This is how it is mostly done in practice.
There is one more alternative:
Suppose the screed was installed too low in every room, then, with the exception of the main corridor (in multi-family houses) or the main entrance (in a single-family house), the screed can also be leveled only where we encounter critical points. This would be, for example, the front door of the house.
However, if the house or apartment has a staircase to the upper floors, the situation is quite different because the step height of the stairs has been aligned with the correct height measure of the screed (in that case, the step height of the first step would be larger than the following steps; that would be unacceptable!).
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You may recognize that the topic is very extensive and the solution depends on many aspects.
At this point, I only wanted to provide the relevant notes. Ultimately, you (from my practical experience) will only get further with a construction specialist representing your interests (this can be, for example, a good site manager or architect).
Because a craftsman’s willingness to compromise also depends on the economic pressure they are under....
And the quick invoice payment you mentioned already indicates that.
Good luck (and keep your nerves): KlaRa
 
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