AnRi311
2020-11-29 13:33:31
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Good day everyone,
We are currently in the exploratory phase for the upcoming house construction. The plot is available and the final plan will also be created by a professional architect. Nevertheless, we have some ideas that can be filtered in advance, especially regarding feasibility and practicality. It doesn’t make sense to focus on concepts beforehand that turn out to be impractical and then restart from scratch.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: ~1250 m²
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: No development plan
Floor space index: see above
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see above
Edge development: according to BayBO Art.6
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage/2 in front
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof shape: hipped roof ~35° on main house, hipped roof on garage, flat roof on connecting building
Style: traditional
Orientation: west
Maximum heights/limits: none
Other requirements: wooden electricity pole on the plot
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type: classic Swabian style (window shutters, cornice at roof, ...)
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors + expandable attic
Number of persons, age: 2, mid/late 20s, 2 children planned
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: approx. 90 sqm each
Office: family use or home office: home office, possibly later bedroom
Overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture: mixed form
Conservative or modern construction: rather conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, possibly island
Number of dining seats: at least 8
Fireplace: tunnel fireplace in wall between living and dining
Music/stereo wall:
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage, driveway from the south
Utility garden, greenhouse
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be
Full staircase to the attic (expansion planned),
(bat) dormer in the attic,
separability of living area by a large sliding door (probably surface-mounted due to size),
no children's bathroom upstairs, instead guest bathroom on ground floor with separate toilet,
no "parent section" upstairs, dressing room should be in front of the bedroom,
later separability into 2 separate residential units (dashed line: wall insertion and bathroom conversion),
symmetry of the exterior view (except east/plan right side), exterior view with bay window more or less fixed,
if possible, barrier-free on the ground floor right away (anything can happen ...),
no solar, photovoltaic
House design
Who created the plan:
- Do-it-yourself, reading the forum, house building magazines
What do you particularly like? Why? General requirements are met, the area in front of the office/the stairs can be used as a spacious wardrobe, the living/dining area is also generous and has a highlight with the tunnel fireplace visible from all sides.
What do you dislike? Why? See fundamental question
Price estimate according to architect/planner: /
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 575k with own work (excluding land/outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: district heating, empty conduits should still be laid for possible air heat pump or geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up, on which details/expansions
- can you do without: storage upstairs, size of kitchen/dining area (as long as at least 8 people year-round, in exceptional cases 12-14 people can still be accommodated)
- cannot do without: fireplace, separability of residential units, stairs to attic, exterior view (but surely still leaves some leeway)
What is the most important/basic question regarding the floor plan?
It is often said that anyone can build big. The rough external dimensions (whether 12.5 x 9.8, 12.0 x 10.0 or 11.5 x 9.5 - does not really matter) are more or less fixed, as well as the exterior appearance (which we believe fits best on the plot). This still complicates the room planning somewhat. But these are compromises we are willing to make. In my opinion, space is still wasted in front of the kitchen unit in the dining/kitchen area, also the upstairs bathroom is very large in terms of area, but does not look big. Likewise, the pantry is on the south side and the guest bathroom with shower also faces the street (albeit used only by 3 residents). It does not have to be optimized inch by inch, as we have enough space inside and outside. But it would be a pity if the house becomes a huge bunker whose spaciousness inside is lost due to planning errors.
The attached plan only has one terrace door. Actually, a U-shaped kitchen is preferred. But an island would also be conceivable so that all windows on the west side can be turned into doors.
One idea is to scrap the bay window and instead install 4 windows on the west side, both downstairs and upstairs. The plans are (almost) aligned to north. The question of whether the garage is built with a corner directly on the plan-right boundary or whether 3m distance is left for a carport etc. is still open. The bathroom fittings can hopefully be seen as a "work in progress." The rest of the furnishings can be considered "as planned." Exterior walls 42.5, interior walls 17.5, garage exterior wall 24.0.
I would be very happy to hear about major flaws and possibly suggestions for improvement.

We are currently in the exploratory phase for the upcoming house construction. The plot is available and the final plan will also be created by a professional architect. Nevertheless, we have some ideas that can be filtered in advance, especially regarding feasibility and practicality. It doesn’t make sense to focus on concepts beforehand that turn out to be impractical and then restart from scratch.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: ~1250 m²
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: No development plan
Floor space index: see above
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see above
Edge development: according to BayBO Art.6
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage/2 in front
Number of floors: 2 full floors
Roof shape: hipped roof ~35° on main house, hipped roof on garage, flat roof on connecting building
Style: traditional
Orientation: west
Maximum heights/limits: none
Other requirements: wooden electricity pole on the plot
Requirements of the builders
Style, roof shape, building type: classic Swabian style (window shutters, cornice at roof, ...)
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors + expandable attic
Number of persons, age: 2, mid/late 20s, 2 children planned
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: approx. 90 sqm each
Office: family use or home office: home office, possibly later bedroom
Overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture: mixed form
Conservative or modern construction: rather conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, possibly island
Number of dining seats: at least 8
Fireplace: tunnel fireplace in wall between living and dining
Music/stereo wall:
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage, driveway from the south
Utility garden, greenhouse
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be
Full staircase to the attic (expansion planned),
(bat) dormer in the attic,
separability of living area by a large sliding door (probably surface-mounted due to size),
no children's bathroom upstairs, instead guest bathroom on ground floor with separate toilet,
no "parent section" upstairs, dressing room should be in front of the bedroom,
later separability into 2 separate residential units (dashed line: wall insertion and bathroom conversion),
symmetry of the exterior view (except east/plan right side), exterior view with bay window more or less fixed,
if possible, barrier-free on the ground floor right away (anything can happen ...),
no solar, photovoltaic
House design
Who created the plan:
- Do-it-yourself, reading the forum, house building magazines
What do you particularly like? Why? General requirements are met, the area in front of the office/the stairs can be used as a spacious wardrobe, the living/dining area is also generous and has a highlight with the tunnel fireplace visible from all sides.
What do you dislike? Why? See fundamental question
Price estimate according to architect/planner: /
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 575k with own work (excluding land/outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: district heating, empty conduits should still be laid for possible air heat pump or geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up, on which details/expansions
- can you do without: storage upstairs, size of kitchen/dining area (as long as at least 8 people year-round, in exceptional cases 12-14 people can still be accommodated)
- cannot do without: fireplace, separability of residential units, stairs to attic, exterior view (but surely still leaves some leeway)
What is the most important/basic question regarding the floor plan?
It is often said that anyone can build big. The rough external dimensions (whether 12.5 x 9.8, 12.0 x 10.0 or 11.5 x 9.5 - does not really matter) are more or less fixed, as well as the exterior appearance (which we believe fits best on the plot). This still complicates the room planning somewhat. But these are compromises we are willing to make. In my opinion, space is still wasted in front of the kitchen unit in the dining/kitchen area, also the upstairs bathroom is very large in terms of area, but does not look big. Likewise, the pantry is on the south side and the guest bathroom with shower also faces the street (albeit used only by 3 residents). It does not have to be optimized inch by inch, as we have enough space inside and outside. But it would be a pity if the house becomes a huge bunker whose spaciousness inside is lost due to planning errors.
The attached plan only has one terrace door. Actually, a U-shaped kitchen is preferred. But an island would also be conceivable so that all windows on the west side can be turned into doors.
One idea is to scrap the bay window and instead install 4 windows on the west side, both downstairs and upstairs. The plans are (almost) aligned to north. The question of whether the garage is built with a corner directly on the plan-right boundary or whether 3m distance is left for a carport etc. is still open. The bathroom fittings can hopefully be seen as a "work in progress." The rest of the furnishings can be considered "as planned." Exterior walls 42.5, interior walls 17.5, garage exterior wall 24.0.
I would be very happy to hear about major flaws and possibly suggestions for improvement.