Smoker House Renovation - Ideas - Advice

  • Erstellt am 2019-09-09 22:17:00

Sanierungsmüd

2019-09-09 22:17:00
  • #1
Hello, I would like to describe our current renovation problems here and I hope that someone might still have some tips on what else we can do.
We bought an end-of-terrace house (built in 1984) in the Munich suburbs at the end of 2018. During the inspections, all the windows were opened every time, so unfortunately we did not recognize quite a lot. Since it was always warm in 2018, we did not think much about it at that time.
1. Attic Extreme smoker's house: as mentioned, we did not recognize this during the inspections because everything was open, all the walls were freshly painted and two older dogs had lived in the house. We tried to remove the smoke smell with ozonation. Unsuccessful. That is why we have already started chipping the plaster off the walls in the attic and then have everything replastered. We have also already ripped out the floors. We will prime the screed and then lay new flooring. We have also already removed the insulation from the roof. On the one hand, it was from the year of construction and was partly hanging in rags under the wooden ceiling. On the other hand, the insulation smelled atrocious.

2. 1st floor: sour-musty smell in the rooms after painting with standard dispersion paint. Obviously, there was a reaction with the substrate here. It smelled and still smells very unpleasant even after months. We will now also chip off the plaster from the walls here and have everything replastered. Furthermore, apparently under all parquet floors the old rubber layer from carpets was left as sound insulation. These of course smell accordingly. Has been and will of course also be removed.

3. Ground floor and entire staircase:
Originally, there was a coarse textured plaster here. We had this smoothed. Rotband and subsequently a smooth plaster were used. Afterwards, a silicone resin paint was applied. Here we now have the problem that the walls smell of cat urine. Especially when it is warm outside and the ozone level is high. I have researched and it is apparently really the case that titanium dioxide and ozone react together. For a few days now, however, it has obviously also pushed the old smoke smell through again. We are really finished. Anyone who knows property prices around Munich knows that this really was no bargain. We have a 10-month-old baby and I fear that all the fumes/odors are making him ill.

Why I am writing here:
- Has anyone had the above problems and been able to solve them somehow?
- Is there any way other than ozonation, blocking paint and removing plaster to remove the smoke smell? All research on the Internet has not brought anything useful.
- Has anyone removed the plaster and then replastered? Did the smoke smell disappear?

Are there any further ideas regarding our problems?

You can no longer approach the owner, as he has since passed away from lung cancer.
Can the real estate agent be held partially liable here? Should he have informed us about this?

Many thanks in advance to everyone who read this to the end and for any possible ideas.
 

ypg

2019-09-09 22:31:53
  • #2


No. No. Sorry. Your noses should have told you that in time. As banal as it may sound: do scent sprays and oils not help?
 

Winniefred

2019-09-10 08:59:42
  • #3
I'm afraid the only solution is to gut everything and start fresh. Smoke smells absolutely foul. However, I wonder how you couldn't smell it. Open windows do not cover up a horrendous smoke smell that's been ingrained for years—you notice that immediately. Everything stinks, from the radiator to the window frame, from the carpet to the wallpaper, just everything. My grandma was a chain smoker who only smoked on the balcony, and I took over a nightstand more than 2 years ago that was at the other end of the apartment in the bedroom. It still smells like smoke today! In my opinion, nothing can be saved; you have to redo everything if you want to get rid of the smell. Especially for the child's sake, I would absolutely do that anyway. The real estate agent can't be blamed that you didn't recognize an obvious defect. Bought as seen with houses. Look on the bright side: afterwards, your little house will be completely renovated, and you'll have decades of peace from problems like crumbling old plaster, etc.
 

fragg

2019-09-10 09:04:11
  • #4
Lawyer. You need to clarify whether this is a defect, and whether it was deliberately concealed. Whether he is dead now or not doesn't matter, there are heirs.
 

Winniefred

2019-09-10 09:07:34
  • #5
How are you supposed to conceal the smell of smoke that occurs throughout the entire house?
 

nordanney

2019-09-10 10:10:27
  • #6

??? Every room was seen and could be freely "sniffed". There is no hidden defect.
 

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