Bulla2000
2010-07-22 17:15:39
- #1
As I have already written in the other subforum, we want to build new at the latest at the beginning of next year. Used, like-new properties (so no GDR shacks) are almost as expensive as a new build.
A house is to be built in Apolda or the surrounding area. We could already purchase a suitable plot this year, it is located in a residential area and is a building gap.
The only problem I currently see is that there seem to be very few reputable house-building companies. Of course, I have looked at countless offers in the last few weeks on Immoscout24 and various solid house catalogs, but as soon as I found something suitable and then googled the manufacturer, the positive mood disappeared.
Offer Heinz von Heiden (MODICUS-SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE M61.D/P-K+S45+H): costs 152,000 € including the plot. 40 cm solid walls included (some build with 17.5 cm bricks), solar thermal included, etc., but can you build a Heinz von Heiden house considering the bad reviews? Many say: hands off, never again, etc. The fact is that satisfied builders usually do not report online, but mostly the dissatisfied do. Our Heinz von Heiden agent said that the competition would pay many people to post bad reviews. Well then. Surely there are major regional differences and much certainly depends on the construction manager. If he is good and takes his time, everything can run smoothly.
Offer Ambiente Massivhaus (House Westerwald): very extensive included services in the scope of performance, e.g., also the soil survey, construction site setup and clearing, and interior wall smoothing (to prepare for painting). No underfloor heating. Price with basement 155,000 €.
****** Managing Director of Ambiente Massivhaus is Mr. M.S., see imprint.
Offer Partner Massivhaus (Classic) 153,000 € including the plot. Scope of services includes heat pump and underfloor heating. But also here a problem: the exterior walls are built with bricks that are 17.5 cm deep. So rather a small wall than a real wall. Everything else costs extra, i.e., a normal exterior wall with 30 cm or 40 cm Poroton bricks. We will meet with the representative in August because they also sell the aforementioned building plot (also purchasable separately).
So you see, nothing really good.
There is still one possibility. I worked in Potsdam for almost 4 years. One of my employees is a Dipl.-Ing. She and her husband have been building houses together within a company since reunification. Not many, maybe 3-4 per year, but always of the highest quality, very reputable, and with numerous awards. Their prices range from 1000-1100 €/m2 of living space, which is in the same range as the above providers. I am still in contact with her and talked to her at length today. She jokingly said they would build my house. However, the distance between Prussia and Thuringia is just under 300 km.
But the idea is not that silly. Of course, I would have to pay mileage and accommodation costs. But for the construction period of 6 months, the costs would be bearable considering the advantages. Above all, I know that I can have full trust in this company not to be ripped off. Only high-quality materials are used. For example, underfloor heating and a fireplace are a given. She also explained that they do not use concrete screed but the two-thirds more expensive but much better anhydrite flow screed, 6 cm core insulation, triple-glazed windows, etc. I could save myself the accompanying architect because I know they build without defects. For that, I would then pay travel and distance money. I would like this latter solution best.
What do you think?
Is there another or additional house-building company in Apolda and the surrounding area?
I have already contacted the company B & V, but they do not have finished model solid houses, so I would have to go to the architect again first to design one.
For house + plot, we are willing to spend up to €160,000 (the plot costs 30-40,000 €), the remaining 40,000 € should definitely be enough for all incidental costs (property transfer tax, notary/land registry office, soil survey, construction electricity/water, house connections (approx. 6,000 € on request)). We can bring 120,000 € as equity capital. Financing needs therefore max. €80,000.
A house is to be built in Apolda or the surrounding area. We could already purchase a suitable plot this year, it is located in a residential area and is a building gap.
The only problem I currently see is that there seem to be very few reputable house-building companies. Of course, I have looked at countless offers in the last few weeks on Immoscout24 and various solid house catalogs, but as soon as I found something suitable and then googled the manufacturer, the positive mood disappeared.
Offer Heinz von Heiden (MODICUS-SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE M61.D/P-K+S45+H): costs 152,000 € including the plot. 40 cm solid walls included (some build with 17.5 cm bricks), solar thermal included, etc., but can you build a Heinz von Heiden house considering the bad reviews? Many say: hands off, never again, etc. The fact is that satisfied builders usually do not report online, but mostly the dissatisfied do. Our Heinz von Heiden agent said that the competition would pay many people to post bad reviews. Well then. Surely there are major regional differences and much certainly depends on the construction manager. If he is good and takes his time, everything can run smoothly.
Offer Ambiente Massivhaus (House Westerwald): very extensive included services in the scope of performance, e.g., also the soil survey, construction site setup and clearing, and interior wall smoothing (to prepare for painting). No underfloor heating. Price with basement 155,000 €.
****** Managing Director of Ambiente Massivhaus is Mr. M.S., see imprint.
Offer Partner Massivhaus (Classic) 153,000 € including the plot. Scope of services includes heat pump and underfloor heating. But also here a problem: the exterior walls are built with bricks that are 17.5 cm deep. So rather a small wall than a real wall. Everything else costs extra, i.e., a normal exterior wall with 30 cm or 40 cm Poroton bricks. We will meet with the representative in August because they also sell the aforementioned building plot (also purchasable separately).
So you see, nothing really good.
There is still one possibility. I worked in Potsdam for almost 4 years. One of my employees is a Dipl.-Ing. She and her husband have been building houses together within a company since reunification. Not many, maybe 3-4 per year, but always of the highest quality, very reputable, and with numerous awards. Their prices range from 1000-1100 €/m2 of living space, which is in the same range as the above providers. I am still in contact with her and talked to her at length today. She jokingly said they would build my house. However, the distance between Prussia and Thuringia is just under 300 km.
But the idea is not that silly. Of course, I would have to pay mileage and accommodation costs. But for the construction period of 6 months, the costs would be bearable considering the advantages. Above all, I know that I can have full trust in this company not to be ripped off. Only high-quality materials are used. For example, underfloor heating and a fireplace are a given. She also explained that they do not use concrete screed but the two-thirds more expensive but much better anhydrite flow screed, 6 cm core insulation, triple-glazed windows, etc. I could save myself the accompanying architect because I know they build without defects. For that, I would then pay travel and distance money. I would like this latter solution best.
What do you think?
Is there another or additional house-building company in Apolda and the surrounding area?
I have already contacted the company B & V, but they do not have finished model solid houses, so I would have to go to the architect again first to design one.
For house + plot, we are willing to spend up to €160,000 (the plot costs 30-40,000 €), the remaining 40,000 € should definitely be enough for all incidental costs (property transfer tax, notary/land registry office, soil survey, construction electricity/water, house connections (approx. 6,000 € on request)). We can bring 120,000 € as equity capital. Financing needs therefore max. €80,000.