Is the cost breakdown for a single-family house plausible?

  • Erstellt am 2018-11-18 22:16:17

Zaba12

2018-11-20 13:39:26
  • #1

Everyone lives in their own reality. My reality looks different.

For example, I have 180sqm to pave. L-stones are not all the same. My neighbor has those kindergarten things. Mine are 12cm thick and 1.30m high over 63m. The terrain modeling is also not free. The house has a WU basement poured and is built with bricks without ETICS. You then have to bring it to KfW55 if you want it.

In other words, everyone pays for the quality and conditions they have.

Not everyone lives on a slope but also not in a flat new development area with zero earthworks.
 

SilentGalaxy

2018-11-20 13:46:26
  • #2
I also still have 160 sqm to pave and 250 sqm of lawn to lay. It's not finished yet, money has to come back in first [Lsteine 55x100].
 

Basti2709

2018-11-20 14:04:10
  • #3


It all has to do with the building location again... I can't think of a house here that was built on or into a slope... all plots are more or less flat. But if I drive in the direction of Görlitz/Bautzen/Zittau, the landscape becomes hillier...

We had 145sqm paved... it was around 10,000 euros. Probably also cheaper than what many others here have paid.
 

Milo3

2018-11-20 16:19:12
  • #4
One more note: did every builder here actually have a soil survey done? We borrowed ours from the friendly neighbor (gave him a nice presentable one as thanks). Now surely the horror example with the rock will come... The money was not worth it to me given this low risk! Besides, the drilling was only done at 2 corner points anyway.
 

ypg

2018-11-20 16:41:00
  • #5


My site manager would not have started working at all without one. Ultimately, it serves as a safety measure for the structural engineering. It serves as the basis for warranty.

My neighbors didn't have one done, we did... and had to install a better foundation slab worth about €4000. Although the neighboring houses are still standing, who knows if someday severe cracks will affect one or another wall, precisely because the documented foundation was omitted?
 

Winniefred

2018-11-20 17:36:47
  • #6
I can certainly understand that as a building novice, one feels totally insecure. Some people just have consistent luck (lots of relatives and friends in the trade, inherited land, simple and level ground, standard taste, low demands, etc.) and some are building in Munich and really have to buy everything and already pay 400,000 bucks just for the land and are satisfied with only a 40,000€ garage.

With a land price of 250,000, I would also assume that craftsmen are no longer being thrown at you; those times are long gone even in the East. At least in the areas that are booming, and Berlin definitely counts as one of them. As far as I could see from the invoices, we had the cheapest craftsman at 35€/h and the most expensive at 79 and some change. Craftsmen are scarce and they know it too.

I would definitely rely on the judgment of the local pros, but with healthy caution. I actually find your approach quite smart. In the end, hopefully, the worst case will not happen, but it also certainly won’t happen that suddenly everything becomes cheaper or even just as expensive as calculated. If your general contractor has been building houses for 20 years and hasn’t coincidentally not built any for 5 years, then he will surely have an overview, just like the architect, etc. Nevertheless, I would probably take the warnings here seriously... people probably don’t write that because they find it funny and have nothing else to do, but because they might have already fallen into the cost trap themselves and want to warn others. We ourselves didn’t build new because it would have simply been too expensive and we wouldn’t have been happy with the location of the targeted property in the end (too far out). But even the initially targeted costs from the prefab house builders for a rather small and simple bungalow were so high that it would have simply become too expensive. Especially with all the things that weren’t even on the table at that time. That would have been way too hot for me too. Nothing could have gone wrong with us, otherwise, we wouldn’t have been able to pay for it anymore. So we just didn’t do it and then bought a simple existing property and renovated it ourselves. But we were insanely lucky to get something relatively cheap and there were no incidents – which brings us back to the topic of luck^^. I know in Berlin, it’s actually almost hopeless and I can probably save myself the following: But if new construction is too risky, unpredictable, or expensive for you, then see if you can and want to make compromises. Maybe an existing property, or "just" a condominium or whatever. Before you can’t sleep at night anymore, that is sometimes the better decision.
 

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