unknown30
2016-12-30 02:48:24
- #1
Hello everyone,
I am now in the situation as well: We are planning to buy a single-family house. The house is already reserved, now we have to decide on a loan.
Briefly about us:
He is 28 years old, IT manager, €4170 gross + mid-range company car + bonus + annual salary adjustment (voluntary, but nothing should stand in the way). I am still studying computer science on the side. She is 27 years old, €2900 gross + 13th salary + bonus.
Both employed full-time with permanent contracts. Married, no children so far, earliest planned in two years. Second car available, but rarely used and in good condition. In general, we manage money very well. Monthly installment planned about €1400, that should be fine.
Plan:
Purchase of single-family house €365K + €44K incidental costs = total investment €409K.
€63K equity, €56K will be invested, the rest reserved. Needed loan (€409K - €56K =) €353K. New house, upscale fittings, ready to move in immediately, including kitchen. The bank has already inspected the house and certified it as very good.
Offer 1 (fixed), installment €1350
- KfW €50K, 10 years, monthly €203, residual debt €33K
- Annuity, €84K, fixed 15 years, 2.20% effective (2.18 nominal), residual debt €53K, monthly €300 installment, special repayment 5%,
- Building savings contract, €220K, fixed interest rate for entire term, 2.69% effective (2.18 nominal), no residual debt due to full repayment, monthly €400 + €450 installment, guaranteed allocation, unlimited special repayments (for the second phase, for the first phase I am not exactly sure)
-> Total costs (interest + fees) approx. €140K, residual debt €53K after 15 years, residual covered securely by building savings contract (total costs calculated correctly)
Offer 2 (through broker, offer will be concretely checked again by the bank), installment €1345
- KfW €50K, 10 years, monthly €203, residual debt €33K
- Annuity, €303K, fixed 20 years, 2.24% effective, residual debt €128K, monthly €1140, special repayment 5%
-> Total costs (interest) approx. €99K, residual debt €128K after 20 years (total costs were only interest)
KfW was not considered separately as it is the same in both cases.
To somehow compare the offers, I assume that no special repayments take place. If no special repayments are made, I have a higher interest rate change risk with offer 2 due to the high residual debt. With offer 1, I have higher total costs, but also greater security with a slightly longer term and lower residual debt. Special repayments are possible everywhere, with the building savings contract at the end even in unlimited amounts.
What do you think about our situation?
I look forward to your / any feedback.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Karsten
I am now in the situation as well: We are planning to buy a single-family house. The house is already reserved, now we have to decide on a loan.
Briefly about us:
He is 28 years old, IT manager, €4170 gross + mid-range company car + bonus + annual salary adjustment (voluntary, but nothing should stand in the way). I am still studying computer science on the side. She is 27 years old, €2900 gross + 13th salary + bonus.
Both employed full-time with permanent contracts. Married, no children so far, earliest planned in two years. Second car available, but rarely used and in good condition. In general, we manage money very well. Monthly installment planned about €1400, that should be fine.
Plan:
Purchase of single-family house €365K + €44K incidental costs = total investment €409K.
€63K equity, €56K will be invested, the rest reserved. Needed loan (€409K - €56K =) €353K. New house, upscale fittings, ready to move in immediately, including kitchen. The bank has already inspected the house and certified it as very good.
Offer 1 (fixed), installment €1350
- KfW €50K, 10 years, monthly €203, residual debt €33K
- Annuity, €84K, fixed 15 years, 2.20% effective (2.18 nominal), residual debt €53K, monthly €300 installment, special repayment 5%,
- Building savings contract, €220K, fixed interest rate for entire term, 2.69% effective (2.18 nominal), no residual debt due to full repayment, monthly €400 + €450 installment, guaranteed allocation, unlimited special repayments (for the second phase, for the first phase I am not exactly sure)
-> Total costs (interest + fees) approx. €140K, residual debt €53K after 15 years, residual covered securely by building savings contract (total costs calculated correctly)
Offer 2 (through broker, offer will be concretely checked again by the bank), installment €1345
- KfW €50K, 10 years, monthly €203, residual debt €33K
- Annuity, €303K, fixed 20 years, 2.24% effective, residual debt €128K, monthly €1140, special repayment 5%
-> Total costs (interest) approx. €99K, residual debt €128K after 20 years (total costs were only interest)
KfW was not considered separately as it is the same in both cases.
To somehow compare the offers, I assume that no special repayments take place. If no special repayments are made, I have a higher interest rate change risk with offer 2 due to the high residual debt. With offer 1, I have higher total costs, but also greater security with a slightly longer term and lower residual debt. Special repayments are possible everywhere, with the building savings contract at the end even in unlimited amounts.
What do you think about our situation?
I look forward to your / any feedback.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Karsten