DerBaldTilgt
2019-08-16 18:58:57
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Hello!
I have been following along for a while and appreciate the lively exchange on all topics. I am facing my financing decision and would like to include the experiences and opinions of the forum. Essentially, I have two options at the moment.
Initial situation: Single-family house; 2 adults, 1 child.
The income situation is sound and manageable. However, the rates described below should not be exceeded at the moment.
Required capital through financing: 280,000 €
1st option: "classic" loan + KFW 124
Loan: 230,000 EUR
- Interest rate: 1.45 % p.a. nominal
- monthly installment (interest and repayment): 790.00 EUR
- special repayment option 5 % p.a.
- remaining debt after 15 years: 128,082.32 EUR
- interest rate risk after 15 years, total term 30 years
- monthly burden year 1-15: 790.00 EUR
plus 50,000 EUR loan KfW 124 - fixed interest for 10 years, term 25 years
- current interest rate: 0.85 % p.a. nominal
- monthly installment (interest and repayment): 191.98 EUR from year 2
- remaining debt after 10 years: 32,434.05 EUR
- interest rate risk after 10 years
Total monthly rate save for 10 years = 981.98 €
2nd option: Loan with Bauspar contract and KfW 124
Bullet loan: 230,000 EUR for 15 years
- Interest rate: 1.45 % p.a. nominal
- monthly interest payment: 278.00 EUR (no repayment!)
- remaining debt after 15 years: 230,000.00 EUR will be repaid by the Bauspar savings and loan
- no interest rate risk after 15 years
Bauspar contract:
- monthly savings rate Bauspar contract (from year 2 to year 15): 561.00 EUR
- Bauspar sum minus fees at allocation: approx. 92,000 EUR
- guaranteed interest rate of the Bauspar loan from year 16: 2.35 % p.a. – fixed for the remaining term of approx. 15 years
- monthly annuity of the Bauspar loan: 920.00 EUR until the end of the term
- special repayments for the benefit of the Bauspar loan are possible at any time
- monthly burden year 1-15: 839.00 EUR
- monthly burden from year 16: 920.00 EUR
plus 50,000 EUR loan KfW 124 - fixed interest for 10 years, term 25 years
- current interest rate: 0.85 % p.a. nominal
- monthly installment (interest and repayment): 191.98 EUR from year 2
- remaining debt after 10 years: 32,434.05 EUR
- interest rate risk after 10 years
Total monthly rate save for 10 years = 1,030.98 €
From year 16 save 920.00 EUR plus KfW rate
___________
In the meantime, the KfW interest rate has probably also dropped to 0.75 %...
I am torn. On the one hand, I am attracted by the greatest possible planning security of the combination with the Bauspar contract for the larger part of the loan.
But I also see that when the KfW fixed interest period is over and I have the Bauspar loan, I will probably have to handle a rate of about 1,200 EUR (no matter how the KfW interest develops). And I have great respect for the fact that after 15 years I still have not repaid anything on the original loan. Plus: The fees of about 2,300 EUR for the Bauspar contract really hurt.
As a precaution in case of emergency, we also have insurance solutions in mind. Among other things, a life insurance is offered, the sum insured of which decreases linearly during the financing period (basically to purely secure the remaining debt). That seems to me only sensible with the first option without Bauspar, because the remaining debt also decreases continuously here.
Security costs, I am aware of that. But I do not really find the Bauspar option very secure – and it is expensive... Or am I overlooking something in my considerations?
I have been following along for a while and appreciate the lively exchange on all topics. I am facing my financing decision and would like to include the experiences and opinions of the forum. Essentially, I have two options at the moment.
Initial situation: Single-family house; 2 adults, 1 child.
The income situation is sound and manageable. However, the rates described below should not be exceeded at the moment.
Required capital through financing: 280,000 €
1st option: "classic" loan + KFW 124
Loan: 230,000 EUR
- Interest rate: 1.45 % p.a. nominal
- monthly installment (interest and repayment): 790.00 EUR
- special repayment option 5 % p.a.
- remaining debt after 15 years: 128,082.32 EUR
- interest rate risk after 15 years, total term 30 years
- monthly burden year 1-15: 790.00 EUR
plus 50,000 EUR loan KfW 124 - fixed interest for 10 years, term 25 years
- current interest rate: 0.85 % p.a. nominal
- monthly installment (interest and repayment): 191.98 EUR from year 2
- remaining debt after 10 years: 32,434.05 EUR
- interest rate risk after 10 years
Total monthly rate save for 10 years = 981.98 €
2nd option: Loan with Bauspar contract and KfW 124
Bullet loan: 230,000 EUR for 15 years
- Interest rate: 1.45 % p.a. nominal
- monthly interest payment: 278.00 EUR (no repayment!)
- remaining debt after 15 years: 230,000.00 EUR will be repaid by the Bauspar savings and loan
- no interest rate risk after 15 years
Bauspar contract:
- monthly savings rate Bauspar contract (from year 2 to year 15): 561.00 EUR
- Bauspar sum minus fees at allocation: approx. 92,000 EUR
- guaranteed interest rate of the Bauspar loan from year 16: 2.35 % p.a. – fixed for the remaining term of approx. 15 years
- monthly annuity of the Bauspar loan: 920.00 EUR until the end of the term
- special repayments for the benefit of the Bauspar loan are possible at any time
- monthly burden year 1-15: 839.00 EUR
- monthly burden from year 16: 920.00 EUR
plus 50,000 EUR loan KfW 124 - fixed interest for 10 years, term 25 years
- current interest rate: 0.85 % p.a. nominal
- monthly installment (interest and repayment): 191.98 EUR from year 2
- remaining debt after 10 years: 32,434.05 EUR
- interest rate risk after 10 years
Total monthly rate save for 10 years = 1,030.98 €
From year 16 save 920.00 EUR plus KfW rate
___________
In the meantime, the KfW interest rate has probably also dropped to 0.75 %...
I am torn. On the one hand, I am attracted by the greatest possible planning security of the combination with the Bauspar contract for the larger part of the loan.
But I also see that when the KfW fixed interest period is over and I have the Bauspar loan, I will probably have to handle a rate of about 1,200 EUR (no matter how the KfW interest develops). And I have great respect for the fact that after 15 years I still have not repaid anything on the original loan. Plus: The fees of about 2,300 EUR for the Bauspar contract really hurt.
As a precaution in case of emergency, we also have insurance solutions in mind. Among other things, a life insurance is offered, the sum insured of which decreases linearly during the financing period (basically to purely secure the remaining debt). That seems to me only sensible with the first option without Bauspar, because the remaining debt also decreases continuously here.
Security costs, I am aware of that. But I do not really find the Bauspar option very secure – and it is expensive... Or am I overlooking something in my considerations?