Schnubbihh
2022-10-06 11:35:47
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Hello dear community,
I wanted to share with you our current thoughts on the family home and ask for your opinions/comments. We are still very early in the planning phase, so it's mainly about the rough framework for now. With your tips, I would then like to start a more detailed planning and elaborate the whole project a bit more.
About the project:
- Young family (he/she both 30 years old with 2 children) is building a single-family house with a granny flat and renting it out to parents (please no discussion about the purpose and sense of multi-generational apartments)
- A single-family house (approx. 150 sqm) with a granny flat (approx. 70 sqm) is to be built, total approx. 220 sqm
- Granny flat is located on the ground floor
- Plot (still searching) with a size of approx. 800 sqm (600-1,000 sqm); the house must of course fit on it in terms of development and not be too big, otherwise it will be too expensive
- Land reference values in the south of Hamburg approx. €650/sqm
- Planned cost for the plot: €550,000
- Planned cost for the house (at €3000/sqm; is that realistic?): €660,000
- Additional construction costs + garden: approx. €150,000
- Total cost thus: approx. €1.36 million
Financing:
- Without going into detail about my expenses and income here (I keep a detailed household budget)
- We can afford a rate of approx. €2,500
- Parents would pay rent of approx. €1,100 (officially only 66% of that, the rest via gift in advance)
- Tax savings due to "losses" from renting approx. €150 per month
- Total possible rate thus: €3,650
- Equity capital of approx. €100k available (+ gift from parents of unknown amount)
- Roughly, with these conditions, we could take out a loan of €800k
- Of course, we would take out two separate loans: (1) single-family house with high equity contribution, high repayment, and (2) granny flat with 100% financing and no repayment (until the single-family house is paid off)
- Creates a financing gap of approx. €450k that would have to be compensated by (1) reducing our demands, (2) building up more equity, or (3) gift from parents (TBD); probably a combination of all three.
Questions:
- Does all this roughly make sense in principle and is it realistically calculated (on this very rough basis)?
- Is it actually possible to also deduct parts of the plot for the granny flat from taxes (i.e. through loan interest)? So far, only the share of the building is considered.
- Could it make sense to rent out the granny flat furnished? --> Parents gift us money so we can choose furniture and then rent it out?
- Are there any experiences/tips whether the utility room is only needed for the single-family house and the granny flat is "served" over it (without a separate access for the granny flat). This would save space and costs. As I understand it, the granny flat can no longer be sold separately, but we do not plan to do that anyway.
- Further cost savings I see in telephone/internet (only 1 contract), waste disposal and electricity/heating (only 1 connection but separate meters for granny flat). Overall probably rather peanuts.
- How does it work with parking and possibly photovoltaics? Are there any "tips and tricks" for the division between single-family house and granny flat?
- Do you have any other topics/tips you would like to share with us?
Looking forward to your assessments!
I wanted to share with you our current thoughts on the family home and ask for your opinions/comments. We are still very early in the planning phase, so it's mainly about the rough framework for now. With your tips, I would then like to start a more detailed planning and elaborate the whole project a bit more.
About the project:
- Young family (he/she both 30 years old with 2 children) is building a single-family house with a granny flat and renting it out to parents (please no discussion about the purpose and sense of multi-generational apartments)
- A single-family house (approx. 150 sqm) with a granny flat (approx. 70 sqm) is to be built, total approx. 220 sqm
- Granny flat is located on the ground floor
- Plot (still searching) with a size of approx. 800 sqm (600-1,000 sqm); the house must of course fit on it in terms of development and not be too big, otherwise it will be too expensive
- Land reference values in the south of Hamburg approx. €650/sqm
- Planned cost for the plot: €550,000
- Planned cost for the house (at €3000/sqm; is that realistic?): €660,000
- Additional construction costs + garden: approx. €150,000
- Total cost thus: approx. €1.36 million
Financing:
- Without going into detail about my expenses and income here (I keep a detailed household budget)
- We can afford a rate of approx. €2,500
- Parents would pay rent of approx. €1,100 (officially only 66% of that, the rest via gift in advance)
- Tax savings due to "losses" from renting approx. €150 per month
- Total possible rate thus: €3,650
- Equity capital of approx. €100k available (+ gift from parents of unknown amount)
- Roughly, with these conditions, we could take out a loan of €800k
- Of course, we would take out two separate loans: (1) single-family house with high equity contribution, high repayment, and (2) granny flat with 100% financing and no repayment (until the single-family house is paid off)
- Creates a financing gap of approx. €450k that would have to be compensated by (1) reducing our demands, (2) building up more equity, or (3) gift from parents (TBD); probably a combination of all three.
Questions:
- Does all this roughly make sense in principle and is it realistically calculated (on this very rough basis)?
- Is it actually possible to also deduct parts of the plot for the granny flat from taxes (i.e. through loan interest)? So far, only the share of the building is considered.
- Could it make sense to rent out the granny flat furnished? --> Parents gift us money so we can choose furniture and then rent it out?
- Are there any experiences/tips whether the utility room is only needed for the single-family house and the granny flat is "served" over it (without a separate access for the granny flat). This would save space and costs. As I understand it, the granny flat can no longer be sold separately, but we do not plan to do that anyway.
- Further cost savings I see in telephone/internet (only 1 contract), waste disposal and electricity/heating (only 1 connection but separate meters for granny flat). Overall probably rather peanuts.
- How does it work with parking and possibly photovoltaics? Are there any "tips and tricks" for the division between single-family house and granny flat?
- Do you have any other topics/tips you would like to share with us?
Looking forward to your assessments!