Construction management and general contractor

  • Erstellt am 2012-05-04 10:20:24

Projekt 2012

2012-05-04 10:20:24
  • #1
Hello everyone,

a quick question regarding this:

If I understood correctly, the general contractor coordinates the planning, architect, craftsmen, and trades (including those not belonging to his company) and thus takes over the construction management?!

However, in the forums, it is always advised to find an external construction manager who is supposed to represent the interests of the client "better" and "more objectively"...

Is this common practice or aren’t problems/tensions already pre-programmed in this situation, or would a GC even "accept" something like that? An external construction management and a general contractor actually indicate a lack of trust of the client in his GC... On the other hand, it is clear that when it comes down to it, some GCs might put their own interests before the project, and the objectivity and quality of execution might suffer for profit or cost reasons?

How do you see this? Can you "confront" the GC with another construction manager?

Regards

Project 2012
 

niekohle78

2012-05-04 10:38:06
  • #2
Hello,

we currently have this issue on our hands... We have a site manager from our general contractor, and in our opinion, he is not what one expects from a site manager.

Old plans or documents are constantly circulating among the craftsmen, and if we don’t properly counteract with every trade and keep the guys, who aren’t to blame, in line, a lot would go wrong. For the next house, we would hire an external site manager, paid by us, who works for us. Even constant inquiries and confronting the issue have helped nothing so far. We now tell ourselves, just 8 more weeks, then it’s over, and we will continue working with the craftsmen and basically do his job as well.

Either the general contractor cooperates, or he is the wrong one to build your house anyway.

Best regards

N
 

Bauexperte

2012-05-04 11:32:13
  • #3
Hello,


On the contrary, this is exactly the right approach and - by the way - also a good indicator of the seriousness of the provider.

A general contractor/builder who does not resist working with an external expert/construction manager has nothing to hide. On the contrary - it greatly improves their reputation and they are very pleased about it, as it is free advertising for their offer

Kind regards
 

Projekt 2012

2012-05-04 20:37:10
  • #4
And exactly then comes my question:

What does the GÜ still do then, or what tasks does he still have when there is an external site manager....???
The GÜ does not do any trades himself....

Regards

Project 2012
 

Bauexperte

2012-05-04 21:49:53
  • #5
Hello,


Sigh ... the general contractor/project manager (GÜ/BU) as the contractor is responsible for appointing a site manager; this person oversees your construction project. Since most providers struggle with time issues – one could also say that too many construction projects are assigned to one site manager – it is often advisable to involve an external site manager/expert who might detect weaknesses early enough that it costs (almost) no money. He monitors – if you will – the provider as well as his site manager.

Kind regards
 

€uro

2012-05-05 07:43:46
  • #6
The term external site manager is, in my opinion, incorrect. He exclusively fulfills a supervisory function. The site manager authorized to give instructions to the executing companies is always an employee of the GÜ/GU. He primarily acts in their interest, whereby it is assumed that a proper and contractual construction process is the common objective. Unfortunately, this does not always work for various reasons, so external construction supervision is always advantageous. Both site managers and "construction supervisors" are usually purely "construction people," whose training does not include heating, domestic hot water preparation, and ventilation (TGA). Here, the TGA planner should then keep a close eye on the execution.

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