Xorrhal
2016-11-15 13:57:37
- #1
Hello everyone,
we are considering building a house, and I would like to have the costs estimated for it. I understand that you can either approach this very generally ("Count on xxx euros per m² of living space!") and that even with very detailed breakdowns, you can never specify the exact price in a forum...
Nevertheless, I would like to get a rough idea somewhere, and I hope for your competent opinion and help :-)
Conditions:
The plot is available - 14m x 43m = 602m² very flat, fully developed.
Development plan is available, 40% of the area may be built on, 2 full floors are allowed.
Soil survey is available, no restrictions.
Desired:
House with 2 full floors, on the ground floor an apartment of about 70m²-80m² for my parents, the other apartment should have about 150m² in total. Double garage. Outdoor facilities initially left out.
A basement would be interesting depending on costs. No basement means more "living space" for the HAR and utility room and storage room. No basement also certainly means higher heating costs over the years, right?
Layout:
On the ground floor the apartment as well as living/dining room and kitchen of the large apartment. Possibly utility room if no basement. A WC would also be good.
On the upper floor then 3 bedrooms, a large bathroom, possibly an additional WC with shower, as well as a study.
Estimated:
I have already read many numbers for prices per square meter of living space. The lowest was, I believe, 1,400€/m², the highest was 2,200€/m². That brings me for 230m² to 322,000€ to 506,000€ - that is probably the maximum range, the real price will be somewhere in between - would you agree? Is it possible to be more precise somehow? Are these prices usually including everything, i.e. also ancillary costs? Or do you have to add those on top again?
Execution:
I would have the construction planned and supervised by an architect. Does he really get 75,000€ for that (15%)? Is that included in the prices or not?
We have some companies with whom we maintain good relationships (roofer, heating engineer, flooring installer) and some craftsmen in the family circle (electrician, painter, gardener). Therefore, we would like to do some things ourselves, but only those in the "final phase" where basically not much can go wrong anymore... Other points we would coordinate with the architect so that the orders should be awarded to "our" companies...
What we imagine:
For the equipment, I would say upper mid-range. We do not need a whirlpool for 5,000€, but a proper bathtub. We do not need golden faucets or granite floors. We do not need a fitted kitchen for 25,000€, but we also do not want to cook over the campfire. I would like electric shutters - that is already luxury for me. Underfloor heating is also a must-have.
Other:
I would consider a KFW loan because of the good interest rates and the subsidy. With KfW40+ and 2 living units (possibly you could convert the roof into a living unit or at least provide for that?) up to 30,000€ subsidy is possible. But does it pay off? Or are the investments for it disproportionately higher than the "savings"?
Which KfW standard would be desirable and affordable?
What would one calculate as monthly reserves for maintenance for such a new building for the next 20-30 years?
we are considering building a house, and I would like to have the costs estimated for it. I understand that you can either approach this very generally ("Count on xxx euros per m² of living space!") and that even with very detailed breakdowns, you can never specify the exact price in a forum...
Nevertheless, I would like to get a rough idea somewhere, and I hope for your competent opinion and help :-)
Conditions:
The plot is available - 14m x 43m = 602m² very flat, fully developed.
Development plan is available, 40% of the area may be built on, 2 full floors are allowed.
Soil survey is available, no restrictions.
Desired:
House with 2 full floors, on the ground floor an apartment of about 70m²-80m² for my parents, the other apartment should have about 150m² in total. Double garage. Outdoor facilities initially left out.
A basement would be interesting depending on costs. No basement means more "living space" for the HAR and utility room and storage room. No basement also certainly means higher heating costs over the years, right?
Layout:
On the ground floor the apartment as well as living/dining room and kitchen of the large apartment. Possibly utility room if no basement. A WC would also be good.
On the upper floor then 3 bedrooms, a large bathroom, possibly an additional WC with shower, as well as a study.
Estimated:
I have already read many numbers for prices per square meter of living space. The lowest was, I believe, 1,400€/m², the highest was 2,200€/m². That brings me for 230m² to 322,000€ to 506,000€ - that is probably the maximum range, the real price will be somewhere in between - would you agree? Is it possible to be more precise somehow? Are these prices usually including everything, i.e. also ancillary costs? Or do you have to add those on top again?
Execution:
I would have the construction planned and supervised by an architect. Does he really get 75,000€ for that (15%)? Is that included in the prices or not?
We have some companies with whom we maintain good relationships (roofer, heating engineer, flooring installer) and some craftsmen in the family circle (electrician, painter, gardener). Therefore, we would like to do some things ourselves, but only those in the "final phase" where basically not much can go wrong anymore... Other points we would coordinate with the architect so that the orders should be awarded to "our" companies...
What we imagine:
For the equipment, I would say upper mid-range. We do not need a whirlpool for 5,000€, but a proper bathtub. We do not need golden faucets or granite floors. We do not need a fitted kitchen for 25,000€, but we also do not want to cook over the campfire. I would like electric shutters - that is already luxury for me. Underfloor heating is also a must-have.
Other:
I would consider a KFW loan because of the good interest rates and the subsidy. With KfW40+ and 2 living units (possibly you could convert the roof into a living unit or at least provide for that?) up to 30,000€ subsidy is possible. But does it pay off? Or are the investments for it disproportionately higher than the "savings"?
Which KfW standard would be desirable and affordable?
What would one calculate as monthly reserves for maintenance for such a new building for the next 20-30 years?