Chris84
2013-09-08 02:05:45
- #1
Hello dear forum,
I am currently in Canada learning the fine art of log house construction. By now, I have become so infected by the log house building fever that I am seriously considering building my own house after my return. The foremost principle is that the house should be inexpensive! I don't want to take out hundreds of thousands of euros in loans and pay them off for my entire life. What I have in mind is a simple house! The floor plan should be a rectangle of about 8x9m. As for the roof construction, I only dare something simple. That means a simple purlin roof (of course made from round logs) without any frills. The interior walls should not be made of logs but rather traditionally built from masonry. That way you at least have some straight and, above all, bright walls where you can also hang a picture... For those who want to know more details, I am happy to send my first self-made construction drawings.
Now to my actual questions. Is it even allowed in Germany to build your own house (at least the shell made of natural logs)? I assume that for the building application, I would at least need proper plans from an architect? Or are there already other solutions by now? As I said, the floor plan is set, and the architect would only be there to bring it into the right form. Is there anything else standing in the way that I haven't thought of? Another important question is whether it is possible in Germany to heat a house exclusively with a masonry heater? Given the relatively small floor area, a properly dimensioned stove should be sufficient. I have seen houses here on site that were significantly larger and heated only with wood. For hot water supply, I had thought of a tankless water heater, and if it’s too cold in the bathroom in the morning, then an infrared heater can just be installed on the ceiling. You can tell I have given some thought to keeping costs down. However, I don’t know if this is allowed.
Regarding costs, I might be a bit naive, so here is the question whether I have forgotten something important: The developed plot in Germany is already available. Around €10,000 should be sufficient for the foundation slab. For the shell, I need about 70 cubic meters of good spruce wood. At a price of about €130 per cubic meter including delivery, that is roughly another €10,000. Thus the shell including part of the roof structure (rafters are still missing) could be realized for under €20,000. The interior finishing should also be cheaper compared to a "normal" solid house. Heating pipes and radiators are omitted because of the masonry heater. The electrical work is also quite simple in a log house, so the electrician would only need to come to connect the sockets since the drill holes for the cables are already made during the construction of the shell, and I am confident enough to lay the cables myself. Okay, the installation of sanitary facilities is also not exactly cheap, but since only one bathroom is planned, it should not get out of hand. The costs for the rest of the roof should not exceed €15,000 (rafters, insulation, tiles, etc.) I just realize that I have already written a pretty long text and, fearing that no one will read it until the end, I will just stop now.
So please bring me back down to earth and tell me everything I haven't thought of...
Many thanks to everyone who sheds a little light into the darkness. Greetings from Canada. Christian
I am currently in Canada learning the fine art of log house construction. By now, I have become so infected by the log house building fever that I am seriously considering building my own house after my return. The foremost principle is that the house should be inexpensive! I don't want to take out hundreds of thousands of euros in loans and pay them off for my entire life. What I have in mind is a simple house! The floor plan should be a rectangle of about 8x9m. As for the roof construction, I only dare something simple. That means a simple purlin roof (of course made from round logs) without any frills. The interior walls should not be made of logs but rather traditionally built from masonry. That way you at least have some straight and, above all, bright walls where you can also hang a picture... For those who want to know more details, I am happy to send my first self-made construction drawings.
Now to my actual questions. Is it even allowed in Germany to build your own house (at least the shell made of natural logs)? I assume that for the building application, I would at least need proper plans from an architect? Or are there already other solutions by now? As I said, the floor plan is set, and the architect would only be there to bring it into the right form. Is there anything else standing in the way that I haven't thought of? Another important question is whether it is possible in Germany to heat a house exclusively with a masonry heater? Given the relatively small floor area, a properly dimensioned stove should be sufficient. I have seen houses here on site that were significantly larger and heated only with wood. For hot water supply, I had thought of a tankless water heater, and if it’s too cold in the bathroom in the morning, then an infrared heater can just be installed on the ceiling. You can tell I have given some thought to keeping costs down. However, I don’t know if this is allowed.
Regarding costs, I might be a bit naive, so here is the question whether I have forgotten something important: The developed plot in Germany is already available. Around €10,000 should be sufficient for the foundation slab. For the shell, I need about 70 cubic meters of good spruce wood. At a price of about €130 per cubic meter including delivery, that is roughly another €10,000. Thus the shell including part of the roof structure (rafters are still missing) could be realized for under €20,000. The interior finishing should also be cheaper compared to a "normal" solid house. Heating pipes and radiators are omitted because of the masonry heater. The electrical work is also quite simple in a log house, so the electrician would only need to come to connect the sockets since the drill holes for the cables are already made during the construction of the shell, and I am confident enough to lay the cables myself. Okay, the installation of sanitary facilities is also not exactly cheap, but since only one bathroom is planned, it should not get out of hand. The costs for the rest of the roof should not exceed €15,000 (rafters, insulation, tiles, etc.) I just realize that I have already written a pretty long text and, fearing that no one will read it until the end, I will just stop now.
So please bring me back down to earth and tell me everything I haven't thought of...
Many thanks to everyone who sheds a little light into the darkness. Greetings from Canada. Christian