Assessment of Roof Renovation Offer Bavaria

  • Erstellt am 2023-01-18 20:43:00

raziela212

2023-01-18 20:43:00
  • #1
Hello everyone,

First of all, we recently bought a semi-detached house in need of renovation here in Middle Franconia, and slowly the first offers from the craftsmen are coming in.
I was a bit taken aback by the carpenter's offer and wanted to get your assessment. Comparison offers will take a little longer.

It concerns the reroofing and insulation above the rafters of an 83m2 gable roof, plus the installation of an approx. 4m dormer and a roof window.
The first offer we have received for this now is €79,000 all-in. Originally, we had rather estimated something in the range of €45,000-50,000, so this is quite a chunk.

Here is the rough distribution of the costs:
Planning services 4500
Wood construction planning 2000
Construction site setup (barrier, crane, portable toilet) 3500
Scaffolding 2700
Demolition work 3800
Dormer 7200
Roof 21000
Roof window 4500
Roof covering 7400
Sheet metal work (dormer, gutters, chimney, roof connection with neighbor) 8600

Total 66000 plus VAT 79000

Are the prices normal now or can one still hope for better comparison offers?

If interested, I can also gladly list the sub-services in more detail, but the price is not further broken down.
 

Winniefred

2023-01-18 20:50:57
  • #2
Carpenter... so also a new roof structure as well? You only write something about reroofing?
 

raziela212

2023-01-18 21:25:30
  • #3


No, the roof structure itself remains. The roof overhang will be extended as the facade is also to be insulated; otherwise, the roof structure remains.

Here are the items for the roof construction

-10cm doubling of the rafters to increase insulation thickness and extend roof overhang
-Eaves boarding 19mm three-layer board
-Eaves design with wooden panels
-Cladding of raised roof structure on the gable side
-Underroof 80mm wood fiber boards
-Counter battens
-Roof battens
-Gable edge spruce three-layer boards
-Roof boarding in the dormer roof area
-Substructure
-Roof ceiling with 240mm cellulose

This is now a somewhat different roof construction than, for example, suggested in the refurbishment roadmap, which rather proposed insulation with board insulation materials, i.e., the additional underroof and doubling of the rafters would probably be omitted there, but no idea if that is a cost driver.
 

Winniefred

2023-01-18 21:37:31
  • #4
Then I am curious to hear what the others say. But I find it very, very expensive, twice as much as I expected. I don't know how big our roof is now, but it is a small-scale hipped roof, we also wanted continuous insulation and a dormer, and a few years ago they wanted €39,000 from us (we then gave up because we found it way too expensive). But surely someone will still get in touch with current comparable offers,
 

schubert79

2023-01-19 06:32:21
  • #5
Counteroffer! Without a new roof frame, way too expensive!
 

raziela212

2023-02-10 15:58:43
  • #6
Finally received a second offer today. Although significantly cheaper, it is still actually more expensive than expected. What makes me a bit "suspicious" is that many items have almost the same prices.

The second offer has the same execution of the insulation with doubling of the rafters and cellulose insulation between rafters. The costs for the items [Bausstelleneinrichtung], [Dacheindeckung], [Dachfenster], [Blecharbeiten] are practically the same. The item [Dach+Gaube] is significantly lower at 17,000 euros compared to the 28,000 above, and the planning services are also significantly less. All in all, the second one also wants 63,000€ gross...
 

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