mk_2021
2021-07-09 23:19:14
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Hello everyone,
we have been dealing with the topic of house construction for quite some time now. And the more we inform ourselves, the more overwhelmed we feel. We have a plot of land in NRW in sight. Of course, a house is supposed to be built on it now.
1) Our first step led us to an architect. Overall, the appointment was very pleasant and we felt quite comfortable. The rude awakening, however, came with the first cost calculation
Construction costs (185sqm at €2,600/sqm for reasonable quality): €480k
Basement (110sqm at €1,700/sqm): €190k
Double garage: €40k
Fireplace/stove: €15k
Kitchen: €40k
Additional construction costs (e.g. architect, structural engineer, soil survey, TGA planner) (25% of construction costs incl. garage etc.): €180k
Garden (e.g. access paths, paving, some hedges, terrace): €50k
Connection costs (e.g. electricity, gas, telephone): €12k
= €1 million
The numbers are only rough estimates. But €1 million, and that without the plot of land, already sounds steep. Are these figures realistic?
2) After we digested that, we went to a prefab house manufacturer and got information from a solid house builder Viebrockhaus
The prefab house manufacturer showed his best sales qualities in an initial conversation. A rough calculation looked as follows:
Construction costs (185sqm reasonable quality): €390k
Basement (€70k + €10k disposal of excavation. €600-750/sqm without finishing, +€15k finishing): €100k with very basic finishing
Double garage: €30k
Fireplace/stove: €10k
Kitchen: €20k
Additional construction costs/others (e.g. permits, earthworks): €30k
Garden (e.g. access paths, paving, very basic): €15k
Connection costs (e.g. electricity, gas, telephone): n/a so we assume €12k here again
= €607k
Sounds better already. Could that be possible?
The above data should serve as a first orientation. It is clear that you could also save on, for example, the basement. But this way it is comparable.
3) Price-wise, the prefab house looks significantly better of course. Therefore, we pursued this further. We were advised to have 3-5 prefab house builders make a plan and an offer so that one can compare. This of course means several sales talks and then architectural consultations.
Others said that it is better to take an independent architect and then get a cost estimate from 3-5 prefab house builders. We had no idea that this was possible. The architect under 1) was not at all enthusiastic about the prefab house idea and you had the feeling that we had hurt his architect’s pride.
What do you think, how should we proceed best? Are there recommendations for prefab/solid builders in NRW known for good value for money?
Thanks already for your help.
Marin
we have been dealing with the topic of house construction for quite some time now. And the more we inform ourselves, the more overwhelmed we feel. We have a plot of land in NRW in sight. Of course, a house is supposed to be built on it now.
1) Our first step led us to an architect. Overall, the appointment was very pleasant and we felt quite comfortable. The rude awakening, however, came with the first cost calculation
Construction costs (185sqm at €2,600/sqm for reasonable quality): €480k
Basement (110sqm at €1,700/sqm): €190k
Double garage: €40k
Fireplace/stove: €15k
Kitchen: €40k
Additional construction costs (e.g. architect, structural engineer, soil survey, TGA planner) (25% of construction costs incl. garage etc.): €180k
Garden (e.g. access paths, paving, some hedges, terrace): €50k
Connection costs (e.g. electricity, gas, telephone): €12k
= €1 million
The numbers are only rough estimates. But €1 million, and that without the plot of land, already sounds steep. Are these figures realistic?
2) After we digested that, we went to a prefab house manufacturer and got information from a solid house builder Viebrockhaus
The prefab house manufacturer showed his best sales qualities in an initial conversation. A rough calculation looked as follows:
Construction costs (185sqm reasonable quality): €390k
Basement (€70k + €10k disposal of excavation. €600-750/sqm without finishing, +€15k finishing): €100k with very basic finishing
Double garage: €30k
Fireplace/stove: €10k
Kitchen: €20k
Additional construction costs/others (e.g. permits, earthworks): €30k
Garden (e.g. access paths, paving, very basic): €15k
Connection costs (e.g. electricity, gas, telephone): n/a so we assume €12k here again
= €607k
Sounds better already. Could that be possible?
The above data should serve as a first orientation. It is clear that you could also save on, for example, the basement. But this way it is comparable.
3) Price-wise, the prefab house looks significantly better of course. Therefore, we pursued this further. We were advised to have 3-5 prefab house builders make a plan and an offer so that one can compare. This of course means several sales talks and then architectural consultations.
Others said that it is better to take an independent architect and then get a cost estimate from 3-5 prefab house builders. We had no idea that this was possible. The architect under 1) was not at all enthusiastic about the prefab house idea and you had the feeling that we had hurt his architect’s pride.
What do you think, how should we proceed best? Are there recommendations for prefab/solid builders in NRW known for good value for money?
Thanks already for your help.
Marin